How many resets do you guys get (on average) from a set of keg shoes? I think quite possibly, the record for the number of resets must surely reside in New Zealand. There is an attitude here that every last thousanth of an inch of wear must be extracted from a set of shoes. You wouldn't believe what I get asked to reset sometimes. It's not just battlers either, some of the most comical resets are for people with boxes of money lying around the house. They have buckets of shoes they will rummage through in case there is some paper thin set of shoes from some horse that died in 1976 that might fit the new horse they just bought. I put my foot down about this crap, but they still try it on. Anywhere else in the world like this?
I've probably got three resets on some riding school ponies in the past there would still be little to no wear at that stage but the nail holes would be too stretched to reset again. I don't mind resets but fitting old shoes that have been lying around like you said since 1970's I wont do drives me mad often takes fifteen mins just to get the old rusted nails out.
For keg shoes without mods (i.e. weld-in bars, pads, drill-tap, etc.) my fees are the same whether I reset or not. Most of the farriers I know in my area have gone the same way. It eliminates the "negotiation." OTOH, if you have clients picking through piles of old shoes trying to save a few $$, WHY are you leaving your old shoes behind when you pull them? I always keep the old shoes I pull on my rig until I build a new set for that horse. Then if the horse loses a shoe and the owner can't find it, I have a spare shoe on the truck all ready to go on the foot.
Oh Agreed. But Kiwis figure they've paid for those shoes and won't let them out of their sight. Driving off with "their" shoes is grand larceny. I'm seriously considering going the flat fee whether reset or not model as well.
Who pays the sale's tax on the shoes? Do you give them a sales receipt for the cost of the shoes +tax? If not, how can they prove larceny? If they see you keeping the shoes and ask about it, THEN sell them the shoes - full retail + tax.
$x for a new set $y for a reset We have GST like Canada, so 15% on top of everything, ergo, they have paid for them when a new set is charged.. It's just a weird attitude here, probably left over from the days when NZ was a relatively poor first world Nation. I had and interesting experience today. A very wealthy couple with two 5 gallon buckets full of old (and largely useless) shoes. The Missus asked me if there was a place whre they could recycle the shoes. Mister arced up and browbeat her with how they could use these during the winter. Seeing my smirk, she winked at me. He having spotted it, cracked the shits. I kept my head down and left ASAP, LOL! Surely this isn't the only place like this?
I've never had a problem with folks being frugal/ careful with their money, I do have a problem with folks being careless with my time/money though! Years ago when confronted with the bucket full of old rusty shoes to save some money ,I used them, course at that time I'd do a low crawl over broken glass in the mud to trim a pony that could not be held just to feed the family. I realized that I was like a hooker(no disrespect intended), I was selling my time, so I cleaned up the shoes, reworked the pritchel and billed them for my time and fuel spent . Sometimes it was a twenty dollar bill,sometimes more to save $5.00 worth of their used shoes.... and owners could understand the cost when qualified as time, those who could not were looking for someone to work for nothing anyway. Regards Ray
Anytime I have been asked about resets being cheaper, I just tell them that I never have charged them extra for new shoes. The discussion almost always stops.
That method will save one a lot of stress and increase one's bottom line; no discounts at all ... been my philosophy since inception.
If I feel the shoe will lose it ability to provide support or proper breakover where desired, a new shoe is applied..I find on alot of horses with problems do better with the wear worn into the shoe..
One has to look at the horse, job and dimesions of steel applied. Show hunters do not fit the question or answer here in the colonies......
I really miss spoke? What I mean is reading the wear of the shoe and reapplying in needed area. Kinda like a good handmade sidebone shoe? When made ya pack some meat into an area that IMO is going to be expected to be well worn.
Sorry havin trouble gettin my view across? I am a cheapass so I want to put some more metal into an area that I am going to forge breakover into is what I am attemptin to say? That way I do get more resets out of a sidebone shoe I'm thinkin? I do know I could grind same into a keg and get away with it but Like Ya say, I kinda like the horse to get along with what I do..
me too Boss! Do we let 'em wear more? or "bump" some up. Got a couple that go better with worn shoes than new......
