Medial displacement followed by quarter crack

Do you have any proof? There is no such thing as everyone or all of them in horseshoeing.

How does a foot with a generally compromised blood supply grow 3 times faster? I've found they usually grow a little slower in certain areas until you get things lined out.

What is a normal foot?

Because you keep beating the same dead horse about the x-rays, he told you he had requested them but did not have them at this time.

Loaded up one that had minumal displacement. I can load up about a hundred with different severities. Scruggs has shown what to LOOK FOR when circumstances negate rads. Some people have to be "hand held"!

Maybe not in your world but in my world the front have of the hoof capsule holds p3 off the ground. If 2/3 of it are compromised, that's a problem.

In my world the toe just gets in the way. The caudual potrion of the foot is the business end. Where is most lamness diagnosied in the foot? ooppps! My bad

Probably explains why you have so much lameness in your business.

I didn't go on fact checker or anything but I'd be willing to bet most diagnosed lameness is at the toe or by a nail.

Just some food for thought. This is where I wound up with a stable baseline after chasing the foot around for 3 or 4 cycles. She is a high $$$$$ dumblood half breed crossed with one of these . . .

What do you mean by this?

The medial toe is where the displacement is according to the white line. If I fit the dorsal wall there instead of cheating it, I would be placing shoe beyond where the foot would be if it's laminae were not compromised...essentially fitting a flare...and adding more leverage over an area that is already suffering.

So are you saying you fit the toe in laminitic cases? I guess I don't follow you here.

This one has a bit of that as well.

Maybe it is difference in terminology?

I think of caudal foot "syndrome" as something that is undiagnosed = root cause undetermined. Getting a definitive diagnosis may involve greater expense - MRI ain't cheap.

Lameness in the toe is easier to diagnose definitively due to having fewer variables that are easier (and cheaper) to isolate and check in the field with rads, nerve blocks, and hoof testers.

Is her name "Rosie?" LOL!

I think it comes down to dressing as much wall as we can without completely compromising the integrity. You can always modify the shoe to reduce leverage while also utilizing the wall for support.

Yes and No. Leverage and fit are two separate things.

I think you can take a messed up foot and set the shoe back and make good progress. Depending on the foot and what's going on I think the good process will stop after awhile and you will need to use the wall to make further process.

In the foot you've shown I believe setting the shoe back adds extra stress to the compromised medial toe quarter. I would expect the foot to settle, most likely right in the medial quarter where it's already compromised.

This wall was dressed then rounded at the toe. You think that was over done to the point of compromising the integrity?

Agreed. Any attachment (shoe) and subsequent modification thereof changes the vectors in the foot.

This was my goal here.

What specifically do you see that gives you this opinion? I didn't think I over dressed the wall or set the shoe back too far...not saying I disagree with your line of thinking, I just don't see that being the case on this foot...but I might be wrong.

Let me clarify, I've mainly been concentrating on the medial toe quarter fit. I responded to your question about setting shoes back off the toe and I believe it's the same principle as the toe quarter but it wasn't really what I was focusing on.



The first solar pic of post #1 shows the medial wall dress fairly thin.

Then you go onto say:

I think thinning the wall and cheating the medial toe set that area of the foot up for failure.

I removed as much flare as I felt confident to take...dressing is flare is thinning the wall, is it not? Fit the shoe to where I thought it would have the best mechanical advantage for the compromised foot. Rounded the toe off instead of dressing it down further to leave mass of wall.

I guess time will tell if this protocol set this foot up for failure. I don't think so...but that is my opinion.

I'll keep posting the pics; good, bad, or indifferent.

http://farriersforum.com/threads/balance.451/#post-10198

how would you dress the foot ?

Dave is preoccupied in his local hostelry at the moment, but he says that he would trim it level.