Razor horseshoes??

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Gary Hill, Jan 25, 2013.

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    Gary Hill Active Member

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    Ok, Linda but let me ask you this...horses on the track are done on a usual 3-4 week basis do ya agree? OK , just thinking out loud now...how do ya get barrelracers to care for the feet as grooms on a track do, then consider the road , because the Pro horses are hauled all over the USA..now the guy fit the horse really tight and talked about that...OK I want to see what they look like after 4-6 weeks before pulled.. at the cost I understand one guy has to charge for them, I KNOW alot of my girls will have a hissey fit if they cant get 6 weeks out of them..had the same problems when they all wanted Queens plates up front..ain't no pleasing them ya know..:LOL:
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    Zach's Horseshoeing Member

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    Gary are you at the summit?? If so you should find chris wagner he is there and should be able to answer your questions

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    Gary Hill Active Member

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    No Zack, catching up from the Christmas slowdown here...just got some girls asking about them and well if ya know them .....I am all in for anything that works, just gotta fit the price into their systems..new trucks, trailers, tack and bling come before the Farrier to them..?
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    Bill Adams Active Member

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    Linda, I understand that the french heels (witch I prefer to call Freedom Heels) came along in the 1630's and 40's.
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    Bill Adams Active Member

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    Chris Wagner,
    Do you have any slow motion treadmill video of the shoe flexing on a horse's foot as the animation and pulloffs spreading the shoe show?
    I'm always a bit wary of trying to mimic the barefoot for performance horses as barefoot horses at liberty don't volunteer to do what we have them do on the track, arena, field etc.
    I also noticed you and the other fellow on the video were Master Farriers. Whom did you receive this title from?
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    Gary Hill Active Member

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    Thanks Bill, I noticed that only 12 years and the guy is a Master Farrier??
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    Zach's Horseshoeing Member

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    What video yall watching??

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    Tom Bloomer Well-Known Member

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    Yea, he's a slacker. By 12 years he should have a PHD.
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    Bill Adams Active Member

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    Zach, near the bottom of page three of this thread, Eric posted a video.
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    Zach's Horseshoeing Member

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    Thanks bill ill check it out when im not driving

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    Justin Decker Active Member

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    I guess bill was right, this shoe came about based on a shoe from California.

    Razor does sound like a better name for it though.

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    david kelly Dave Kelly

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    I thought California was the sunshine state?
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    Bill Adams Active Member

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    Justin,
    Good point about the name. Try selling a Texan a "California Snow Shoe" to run barrels.
    The first time some high end horse cuts one of it's legs in a misstep with a Razor Shoe on (as they could with any shoe), the word will be out that the razor part is too sharp and they'll be out of business.
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    Bill Adams Active Member

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    That is true, and the source of our sunny dispositions, we do however have the highest mountain range in the continental US and some places get over 30' of snow.
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    Tom Bloomer Well-Known Member

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    Florida is the Sunshine State. California is the Golden State. A lot of the California Gold is grown in Bill Adams' territory.
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    If they are pro's....they won't be thowing a hissy fit; and with that kinda of money at stake....they will be shoeing at 4 weeks.
    I admit, that is tight, just like on the track; but if shod right, and done on schedule, shouldn't run into too many problems. it's when you leave shoes on too long with a tight fit, what we call a racetrack fit...that you run into problems.
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    In retrospect.....I know Conny S. personally; and he is one of the master's of our time when it comes to Standardbred shoeing!!
    you will learn more in one day with him; than shoeing SB's all day. he is the best; and it is an honor to hear him speak on the aspects of shoeing Standardbreds; which is a science in itself. I have met Ian McKinnly myself, and he good on the TB's aspect. Even though I don't know of Chris Wagnor; if he is on board with the others; than ok by me. His explanation looked good, and the shoeing was spot on a racetrack type of shoeing.
    Lets find out how these shoes work in the QH world; they are amazing in the world of SB's racing.
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    Gary Hill Active Member

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    Thanks Linda, my point is that the grooms and live at the track are 24/7 care.. these girls do take care but like I said hauling all the miles that they will be doing might undo the good that a less than 20 second run is the main goal.?..and well some go 5 weeks but cost is still an issue with them. As it should be. Time will tell for sure..:)
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    Platerforge Guest

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    that's true.....and what gets racetrack shoeing such a bad rap is they stretch the shoeing; and that's were the trouble starts. what will happen is they will want to stretch the shoeing on these shoes too......and once again blame the shoe/not the timeline on the shoeing schedule.
    this is not a shoe or shoeing that can be stretched.
    Standardbreds are shod every 3-4 weeks; so it's a success do to the owner/trainer/grooms and shoer working together for the horses sake.
    Performance horses and their owners who want this shoeing are going to have to understand this principle/ that this a type of racetrack plating in which waiting 5-6 weeks is Un-acceptable!!!
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    Bill Adams Active Member

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    Ya but they say they can be flexed, so they will have to be shod on a flexible schedule.

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