Everyday Shoeing

Discussion in 'Everyday Horseshoeing' started by gary evans, Mar 8, 2012.

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    Josh Ramsey Member

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    Lol

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    david a hall Moderator

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    Thats interesting Rick, What made you decide to block him up?
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    Rick Burten Professional farrier

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    I apologize, David, but it seems our common language divides us. I don't understand what you mean by "block him up".
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    Bill Adams Active Member

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    Eric,
    Beauty and function. Describe the French hind for me if you would.
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    david a hall Moderator

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    Indeed that language barrier. by block him up I meant artificially raise him on the one foot.
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    Rick Burten Professional farrier

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    Well, everything else we do with horses is 'artificial' so why not this? ;)

    Actually, this is a horse with Hi-Lo/Clubby hoof syndrome and in his case, adding a shim to the 'Hi' side package has helped even him out. Though the photo doesn't really show it, that shoe is actually a 12oz toe weight. The shoe on the 'Lo' side is a 9 oz even weight half round. He has the same syndrome, to a much lesser degree, in his contra-lateral hinds. I am able to manage it successfully with the trim and shoeing with a 'matched' pair of shoes, in this case, Eventers with a medial heel extension and a slight lateral trailer, though I've found he likes a bit more trailer on the right vs. the left.

    Generally speaking, in my custom, when I get the horse 'dialed in', I want to reset the 'Hi side' package every three weeks because shortly after that time frame, the horse starts to move incorrectly on that side. Since horses in my custom, especially the show horses, are on a six week rotation, it works out well to follow this protocol Unfortunately, time and distance sometimes preclude following that regimen.
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    chris bunting Well-Known Member

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    how they be a matched pair if they are different weights ?
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    Rick Burten Professional farrier

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    They're not. I was referring to the hind pair which are indeed a 'matched pair' :) ;)
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    david a hall Moderator

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    Rick im interested in this. you add a shim to the high side. do you mean the club foot has more material in between the shoe and the foot? is this tapered?
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    Rick Burten Professional farrier

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    Yes, in this case, a 3/16" leather rim pad. Bear in mine that I have trimmed the heels back and also removed a fair amount of the dish at the toe. In some instances, after pulling the heels back, I add a wedge, usually with a frog support incorporated in it. For me, Each case is decided on a "case by case"/"trial and error" basis and sometimes it takes several tries to get the package 'right' for that horse.
    No.
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    chris bunting Well-Known Member

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    read your post again , you state one shoe is 12 ounces and the other is nine , one is flat the other is half round strangest " matched pair " i have heard of , your words not mine
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    Rick Burten Professional farrier

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    Once more, I wrote:
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    Eric Russell Active Member

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    I posted a pic of the french hind - http://farriersforum.com/threads/everyday-shoeing.84/page-78#post-20993

    Horse forges and falls down. He also has negative angles. I wanted to square the toe to help with the forging but also wanted a wide web at the toe, to increase force to the flexor, to help with the negative angle.

    It stopped the forging but the toes are wearing back so I may need to think up something new at some point.
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    Josh Ramsey Member

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    That sounds almost counter-intuitive Eric. . .the part about the wide web.

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    Eric Russell Active Member

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    How so?
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    Josh Ramsey Member

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    The increasing force to the toe to "raise" the angle. . .seems that would force heels into the ground and therefore "lowering" the angle.

    I can see how it would increase tension on the ddft. . .and I'm guessing you're looking at that increased tension pulling up on the back half.

    Would this be the reverse of what happens when a foot is wedged?. . .tension relieved thus putting more force on the digital cushion?

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    Eric Russell Active Member

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    The idea is to increase force to the deep flexor which will reduce force on the digital cushion, heels....

    Preferably I'd like to fit to the toe so the toe wall can also take some of the load. Just couldn't do it with this horse.
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    Josh Ramsey Member

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    Could this be done on front feet to shod wedging one with a brokeback HPA?

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    Eric Russell Active Member

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    To use the same theory with brokeback conforomation I'd use something along the lines of an onion heel. (increase force to the superficial)

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