had a lame one !!

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    Rick Burten Professional farrier

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    Damn! How many feet had nails in them? Any rads taken? How long was the nail? Straight or bent? After pulling the nail, what treatment protocol(s) did you use?
    Rick Burten, Jul 22, 2013
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    david a hall Moderator

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    Jut one foot, despite my repeat posting :D, I recon 2 days, dont ask!!! but serum and blood had erupted at the centre of the bulbs, syringed pethadine into the nail hole in the centre of the frog and watched it come out the back of the heel (which is posibly a good thing). horse was only 1 or 2 out of 10 lame, so any increase will have it the two miles up the road to the vet hospital. No x-rays were required, should it have gone nasty we usualy put a probe up there and then x-ray if required.
    This horse has a history of lameness on the left fore so no one was supprised to see it lame!!! they are a top yard and were very embarresed.
    david a hall, Jul 22, 2013
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    david a hall Moderator

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    This is the same foot as in post 18 of this thread.
    david a hall, Jul 22, 2013
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    Dave Murray Member

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    Were X rays taken before you pulled the nail out? To see what if anything was damaged.
    Dave Murray, Jul 22, 2013
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    Dave Murray Member

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    Sorry I posted before I saw your last post.
    Dave Murray, Jul 22, 2013
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    Platerforge Guest

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    now did it penetrate the coffin bone?
    there is street nail surgery......did this horse need it.
    I only saw Dr. Wm. Riddle perform one on a horse with this. It was very bad as it penetrated the coffin bone; and when septic.
    Platerforge, Jul 22, 2013
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    Tom Bloomer Well-Known Member

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    I've never seen a coffin bone in the back half of the foot. :rolleyes:
    Tom Bloomer, Jul 22, 2013
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    david a hall Moderator

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    If it was going to hit anything it would be the DDFT or bursa or navicular depending how deep it went (basic anatomy) but hoping not as alot of them get shot.
    david a hall, Jul 23, 2013
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    Platerforge Guest

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    they can be bent inwards towards the coffin bone as well and with length of nail as well:rolleyes::rolleyes:
    Platerforge, Jul 23, 2013
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    Rick Burten Professional farrier

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    Thanks, David. How long was the nail and was is bent or straight?
    Rick Burten, Jul 23, 2013
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    david a hall Moderator

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    Rick it was 30 mm with a 5 mm very thin tail on it from either rust of fire, you can just see it on the pic. It was angled forward slightly. Horse was one out of ten today so a bit better.
    david a hall, Jul 23, 2013
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    Rick Burten Professional farrier

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    Glad he's doing better. Hope the progress continues.
    Rick Burten, Jul 23, 2013
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    gary evans old and slow

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    nail.jpg

    hmmm...
    gary evans, Jul 24, 2013
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    Platerforge Guest

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    make it a longer nail and it will hit the coffin bone:sneaky:
    it almost has now:censored:
    Platerforge, Jul 24, 2013
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    Gary Hill Active Member

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    Was it dead center of frog or off to one side?
    Gary Hill, Jul 25, 2013
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    Tom Bloomer Well-Known Member

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    Bullshit. And I saw Dr. Riddle fix one horse and screw up 3 horses- so I have more experience.
    Tom Bloomer, Jul 25, 2013
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    Rick Burten Professional farrier

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    Linda, David said the nail was 30 mm(1.18") long with a 5mm(.19") 'thin tail" so based on its location and David's description, the chances of it hitting bone and not just soft tissue approach zero. Of bigger concern, at least to me, is the chance of trapping bacteria, including tetanus bacteria deep in the nail track because the elasticity of the frog will cause nail track to close from the top(outside) inwards which means the infection, if present, doesn't get treated accurately.
    Rick Burten, Jul 25, 2013
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    oh I didn't see his post:unsure:....................your right on the infection and going septic.
    Platerforge, Jul 25, 2013
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    david a hall Moderator

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    Saw a foal last week, carpus was rotated as well as bent.
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    One week on after a shot of oxy tet and a medial lift and extension.

    DSCF0735.JPG
    david a hall, Jul 30, 2013
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    david a hall Moderator

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    Had this one a bit back, just found some more pics of it.

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