Everyday Shoeing

Discussion in 'Everyday Horseshoeing' started by gary evans, Mar 8, 2012.

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    Gary Hill Active Member

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    Linda try Mustads 4.5 s for those type shoes if you can't get the Mx.. And I don't ever drive a slim blade nail in my custom..I drive Cooper Lite s everyday, they do not shear as slim blades do. I also use Capewell 4s for a lot of small feet..
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    Platerforge Guest

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    the misconceptions don't come from the internet:mad: ; it is sold this way by the farrier supply companies:rolleyes:
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    Platerforge Guest

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    thanks..
    the E4slims just shear off, esp. the Delta's do and Mustads are so so soft!!.......I use the Modial's and they hold up; but only E4/E5 i can find. they are made in Italy.
    haven't tried the Cooper Lites..........ummmm;)
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    Platerforge Guest

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    yes could have sorted the nail holes out.
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    smitty88 Well-Known Member

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    I find it hard to believe you cant get nails tofit shoes:confused:
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    smitty88 Well-Known Member

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    Whe dident you
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    Platerforge Guest

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    i don't know
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    smitty88 Well-Known Member

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    not interested?
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    Rick Burten Professional farrier

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    So what? Marketing is integral to their success. Do the concepts of critical analysis, critical thinking, healthy skepticism and research resonate, even a little, with you? Are you like Henny Penny/Chicken Little who gets eaten by Foxy Loxy /Foxy Woxy, because she failed to understand that you shouldn't believe everything you are told?

    This is a perfect example of why a working knowledge of anatomy, physics and bio-mechanics is important for any farrier who aspires to be more than just 'run of the mill' or less. ymmv.
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    Mikel Dawson Active Member

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    I've found the Liberty nails to be great.
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    gary evans old and slow

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    "Hey, mister. Can you tap this back on so I can play another chukka?"
    :confused:

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    Dave Murray Member

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    Holy SH#T ,Iam glad it's you not me. Please take pictures of what you do with this one. Good Luck Gary!!
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    gary evans old and slow

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    I told the guy there was nothing to nail to so there was no way to get a shoe on it.
    He was pretty keen for it to play again the next day and asked if I would try.
    I punched a couple of extra nails in the toe of a shoe, then glued the shoe to the sole and held it in place with a couple of nails in what was left of the heel. I then filled the void between the shoe and the hoof with acrylic and as it was setting ran a couple of nails up through it and through what was left of the wall of the toe.
    It played the remaining two days of tournament and the shoe stayed on, much to my surprise. :)

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    Platerforge Guest

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    yes, but just don't want to carry the minimum of 10 different boxes of nails and sizes. It's trouble when you have to have several different kinds of shoes for the different kinds of shoeing that you do and showhorses. Some order the shoes they want on their horses, as well. Forget handforged shoes, Smitty.........different breeds and disciples carry different shoes, nails, and uses of shoes here in the states.
    Example of what I used to carry::(
    I used to carry Izumi #1 rn for the TB plates in size 2-3-4; RN 3.5 Capewells for Victory 5-6, RN 3.5 xl Capewells for Victory 7-8 size;
    and SB 4.5 Capewells for the heavy training plates [but] lite training plates by Thoro'bred gets a and fits into a RN3.5xl Capewell; and SB 4.5 xl Pleasure plates and Polo horses with SB 5 capewells for the hind heeled shoes; then the CH5 Capewells, CH5XL for the larger shoes; and then in E-nails E4slim, E4, E5slim, E5. and SB 6 Capewells for size 3 in american shoes and draft CH7 Capewells for few draft crosses I did. and also, you use PS5 Capewell in the standardbred half round/half swedge shoes and most standarbred swedged shoes.

    all shoes are fitted differently here in the states; so if you are using elite victory; they take SB4.5lx Capewells, St. Croix fit in SB5 CW or mx50 Mustads in the extr's....and if you are in the rims or polo's are PS5 Capewell or a SB4.5xl they are in different fitted nail; and Diamonds due well in SB5, but the saddlelites take a SB4.5xl. then there are the kerks that mostly are in SB5 on the sx 7-8's but the DF, grand prix and SSP's all take E Nail heads.

    I can shoe in 1 day from a racehorse, hunters/jumper, dressage, western pleasure, team penning, barrel racer, paso fino, reiner, gaited arab, to the ordinary trail horse
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    Platerforge Guest

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    over 20 years; I tried the handforged shoe approach to be different farrier and to keep improving on my skill level. Well... It didn't work; they just wanted on the shoe they were used to seeing on.
    I should try this approach again on handforged shoes like George Giest does now. George hasn't bought a kegger in 2 years. He now makes all his own shoes. I think today the people want something different than the same old shoeing.
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    Rick Burten Professional farrier

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    I used to ride a five gaited Arab--walk, jog/trot, lope/canter, back and whoa. Other than that, I haven't a clue what
    a 'gaited arab' might be. A NSH OTOH............
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    Platerforge Guest

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    it can be crossed with a spotted gaited horse or saddlebred, and also the Egyptian Arabs were pads/shoes and chains in the early 1990's on the east coast when they no longer could race or back to the UAE.....it didn't last long.
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    Rick Burten Professional farrier

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    That's [potentially]a National Show horse not an Arabian.
    It wasn't/isn't just Egyptian Arabians that wore/wear pads/shoes, but that doesn't make them gaited. :rolleyes: As for chains, they were then and remain today, illegal. Perhaps you should refrain from commenting on things about which you know next to nothing or nothing. (n)
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    Mikel Dawson Active Member

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    Good job. This is one of those OH SH!T moments where we go to hero in a split second. I can just imagine what was going through your head when presented with this one.
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    Mikel Dawson Active Member

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    I find my customers want their horses to go and not be lame. It doesn't matter what shoes are on, so the horse goes great. I've got some horses I hand make because you can't buy what's needed for the horse. At the end of the day, what ever it takes to get the horse to walk off better than it did. Werkman has come out with a new shoe somewhat like the Mustad Equi-Librium, except not a heavy. One thing I really liked was the extra width in the heals to help in heavier bottoms. I tried them on a horse last Tuesday, telling the customer they were a new shoe and I'd like to try them. On Thursday evening about 21oo I received a message saying the horse had never moved like it did that night, and the trainer wished he had something to do with it, but they should thank their farrier instead. They weren't hand mades, but I thought they would help the horse. This is what its all about.

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