Duckett's Dot

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    Karen Fletcher Active Member

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    Couldn't sleep last night so I was up reading about Duckett's Dot. Any opinions? Good and Bad? A good guideline? How many incorporate DD into their method of trimming?

    The article was stating that Duckett does not agree with the heels being brought down to the widest part of the frog, or the height of the frog. So how does he get the necessary heel height?

    Just curious.
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    Layne Member

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    IMO the frog is as good a guide as we can have on the bottom of the foot .... Whether you use ducketts dot Or some other measurement from the apex of the frog to find proper balance of the foot .. It seems to work :)


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    Tom Bloomer Well-Known Member

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    George Spear Member

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    I use ducketts bridge.
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    Tom Bloomer Well-Known Member

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    That's cheating.
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    Mary Ann RaySteeleDaveHallEricRussellTravisDupreeReed Fan

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    Jurga has some good blogs on the bridge and the dot. You reading Jurga?
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    George Spear Member

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    I find the bridge AKA widest part of the foot to be an important reference. I also find the true tip of the frog to be an important reference. frog tips stretch forward as the toe capsule distorts forward so it is important to become proficient at grooming the frog tip with your hoof knife to determine its actual forward most point if you are going to use the tip as a reference.
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    Tom Bloomer Well-Known Member

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    The problem with Duckett's material is that people read it and then try to make it into a step by step how to trim feet "method." It is about physics and anatomy. These are things we should consider when we are assessing the individual hoof for trimming. However the world wants a savior to hand them the holy grail, dumbed down, step by step, recipe to follow exactly the same on every foot so they don't have to THINK. As Mr. Perry would say, they want "the way" handed to them.
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    Karen Fletcher Active Member

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    I understand the physics and anatomy of Duckett's Dot with a horse at a standstill, but not really sure about how A&P comes into play on a moving horse.

    I can read all day about Duckett on the web. There are hundreds of articles about his method. However I can see that most replies here are about real farriers and how they utilize that information, or don't agree at all (with the philosophy) and that's what I wanted to ask about. One thing is an article and theory, the other is how farriers put it into practice.

    How do his landmarks come into play on let's say a club foot, or toed in or out, or some confirmation problem? Are there times when it doesn't work as stated?
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    Mary Ann RaySteeleDaveHallEricRussellTravisDupreeReed Fan

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    George - do you have references on the pre 90 books you find useful to read? My farrier has his bible and I would like to add to his collection something of interest. Suggestions??
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    Tom Bloomer Well-Known Member

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    Very interesting that so many articles have been written by other people about Duckett's "supposed method" when Dave Duckett himself never published or taught or promoted any "method."
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    david a hall Moderator

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    Some excellent points and questions there, There will be consequences of limb alignment loading and the way the horse carries his mass. George reading papers is the way forward and there is much of interest written since 1990.
    Tom there is an interesting article by mr Caldwell in the latest edition of the Forge Magazine, Im sure you can accsess it on line if not PM me.
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    Tom Bloomer Well-Known Member

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    Tom Bloomer Well-Known Member

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    Yea didn't take but a quick scan to see yet more gobbledygook cook book one size fits all stupidity. Caldwell's "Cook Book Method" the next fad waiting for followers. When you see him, tell him I said even HE can't fix stupid with a "protocol." :rolleyes:
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    david a hall Moderator

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    He speaks highly of you to.
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    ray steele Administrator

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    at the risk of staying on Karens subject ,think we could at least mention Duckett at the end of each post,

    regards

    Ray
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    travis dupree reed Active Member

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    Karen some people paint by numbers..and some just go on a blank canvas..some people read sheet music and some play by ear and talent..some shoe using lines and reff points and other cookie cutter ways..and well some of us just shoe the damn horse..Ducket
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    Tom Bloomer Well-Known Member

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    Rick Burten Professional farrier

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    ray steele Administrator

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    George and Ben,posts should stay on track

    ray

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