pre drill and tap

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    travis dupree reed Active Member

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    Does anyone pre..still and tap for stud.. I hate doing it at the horse ..takes to much time...but will it work if I pre do a few sets before hand and then heat and shape ...will it throw off the threads or can I just re run the tap at the horse to make sure all is good after heating and shape the shoes..
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    Mikel Dawson Active Member

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    I don't take the chance, drill and tap is the last thing I do before setting the shoe. I think if one would screw in a stud before shaping, then you have no doubts about the threads.
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    Kim Turner Master of my own domain

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    If unlike me and you don't warp the holes might could work pre drilling and threading them at the horse.

    Why is it called tapping? Lol
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    Rick Burten Professional farrier

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    I agree. To easy to distort a pre-shaping stud hole. If you want to experiment, instead of screwing in a stud, screw in a bolt. Be sure to let the shoe cool completely before removing the bolt. Holds true whether you are cold shaping or hot shaping. 'Course I use a power tapper that drills the hole and taps it all in one process.
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    AnthonyLawrence Active Member

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    I used to do all mine at the horse. But if you get two or three unexpected punch and taps it can put you behind on your schedule.... and it's getting bloody hard to buy a 3/8 tap in NZ these days.

    Now I buy factory mades already done (Kerck Classic Sports). I've gotten pretty good at working around the hole without egging it, and if they have keepers to put in, I put them in before the shoes go in the fire.

    I am still equipped to do them at the horse however, always a situation where I need to do it sometimes.
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    Justin Decker Active Member

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    Travis what are you tapping with, and what is your helper doing standing around!!!!:D
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    Bill Adams Active Member

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    Have you heard the sound the shoes make on a hard surface when the shoes have holes with threads in'em? Tap, tap, tap, tap?
    The tool used to cut the threads into a hole to receive a bolt is called a Tap. The act of cutting the thread is called tapping.
    Extra credit for Kimmy; How many groves are in a 3/8 x 16 thread in a 3/8 thick heel? You may round off the number.

    The best taps to get are the ones with spiral flutes. They remove the cuttings better.
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    chris bunting Well-Known Member

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    Bill ,what materiasl is the hole made of ?
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    Bill Adams Active Member

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    Atmosphere, to be replaced with equine poop.
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    Western Hill Forge Active Member

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    I was thinking each hole is made of space, which is related to time, and therefore money. Albert Einstein ( or Tom Bloomer :) ), can probably better explain.

    Regards
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    Bill Adams Active Member

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    There's a great "Far Side " cartoon of Einstein at a chalk board full of equations ending with "= $" the caption reads "Einstein discovers time equals money".
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    Bill Adams Active Member

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    Kim!!!
    Need a reply here.
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    Kim Turner Master of my own domain

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    I don't know. Lol

    8 or 10?

    Or 16 grooves for a 16 thread
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    Shane Wood Oklahoma

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    1. By the use of ..."at the horse"...are you meaning while bent over at the horses side or just on location i.e. the farm?

    2. Doesn't take much time in my experience...am I doing it wrong? How does it put you that far behind?

    Not trying to be a smart arse I'm really asking. Doesn't seem like you would get that far behind unless your schedule is overbooked.
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    Red Amor Active Member

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    YA TWIT he he he h
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    AnthonyLawrence Active Member

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    I don't do anything bent over I could do standing up, never seen punch and tap done under a horse either. At the horse means, shoe fitted to the hoof and punched and tapped at the anvil before nailing on.

    Yep, I run a tight schedule some days and that extra 15/20 minutes to punch, tap and fit keepers can add up if you do a few.
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    Tom Bloomer Well-Known Member

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    There is 1 groove that is 7 inches long - rounded to the nearest whole number.
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    Rick Burten Professional farrier

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    is that 'whole' or 'hole' number? ;)
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    Tom Bloomer Well-Known Member

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    YES!
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    travis dupree reed Active Member

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    Someone post a pic of the fastest set up they have used..I do it by hand and damn its painfully slow..pre drill ..then still agian ..then tap..and by hand...in out..in. out ..in out...and ain't no where fun like the in out I'm use to doing..

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