Everyday Shoeing

Discussion in 'Everyday Horseshoeing' started by gary evans, Mar 8, 2012.

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    Mr. Perry Active Member

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    if your "elbow" is bothering you. The 'elbow" is to far away from your body. Also you maybe "pushing" the hammer instead of "whipping" the hammer head letting the hammer work for you. Practice keeping the "elbow" to your side and movement from the wrist. Also bend over a bit mor and move your feet.... take from an old man that has a bad appendage. The joint is bone on bone at the 8 o'clock position from the head of the screw:


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    david kelly Dave Kelly

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    flat footed mare from today

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    Dave Whitaker Active Member

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    Nice improvements, Dave. I am interested what you did on the ground surface as to any solar support with a frog pad/packing? And did you not add any elevation to the shoe package because you think the hoof pastern axis is correct and not still broken back?
    I see these kind of feet, (chronically run forward), all the time, and find that they generally seem to rehab faster with some form of solar support to encourage the back of the foot to participate again. Usually a little elevation on the first shoeing seems to help these guys out as well.....
    Nice work..... Dave
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    Cody Gilreath Member

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    Point taken, thanks.


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    david kelly Dave Kelly

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    I didnt put anything in this shoeing ,the previous shoeing was my first time shoeing her, I used a 2deg full pad with i.m and break over ground into the solar surface from the tip of the frog on a pair of century supports. I have had great results with the same set up on a few others, Most I have seen some small changes in the first shoeing but but this mare didnt improve at all.
    I decided to go with the egg bar this time just to try something different and I was shoeing her outside the paddock not in the farrier barn so was limited to what i had in my car, I would have used equipak but hadnt any mesh at the time and it doesnt stay in here without it the desert sand corrodes it.
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    Dave Whitaker Active Member

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    I agree, David, some of these respond immediately, some seem to take a lot longer. I really think that it depends on how chronice the run forward situation has been and how badly the digital cushion has deteriorated into non-supportive fatty tissue.... once the back of the foot wants to play again, these usually come right around.

    On the Equipac......... I had a little barrel horse that would scrub the Equipac out of her feet in a week, leaving just the mesh... I finally decided to set the Equipac down from the ground surface by fitting extra foam inside the shoe, pouring in the Equipac, removing the foam and filling the rest of the foot flush to the ground surface with SoleGuard . The SoleGuard handled the abrasion better and still allowed the much softer Equipac to remain against the solar surface. This package lasted the 4 1/2 to 5 weeks, which was this mare's regular shoeing cycle.....
    Can't imagine some of the conditions you see.... I'll be thinking of you when the nails are freezing to my lips here in Maine soon.....

    Dave
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    One from a few minutes ago. Still can't seem to get the toe nails lined up.
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    Layne Member

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    I like it :). Do you use a lot of concave on hinds ?


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    smitty88 Well-Known Member

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    What is your system of fitting John?
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    scruggs1 Active Member

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    Not a tremendous amount but I have found that I am using more and more.

    Using a seamstress' tape measure, measure the perimeter of the foot from heel to heel, and for a concave shoe, subtract 1.5" from that perimeter measurement. (pretty close on 3/8 x 3/4) The foot above measures right at 14" inches heel to heel so I cut 12.5" of 3/8 x 7/8 concave. Suggestions?
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    smitty88 Well-Known Member

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    do you centre your shoe when making, off centre, or neither.
    what do you fit first
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    Gary Hill Active Member

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    Are you building a contest shoe or a shoe for the foot ? I like your nail pattern, I always seem to nail medial more forward of the widest part as you have? Just wondering why you don't like it? Thanks.
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    scruggs1 Active Member

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    On most feet, I will offset the center mark 1/8". Fit the toe first.

    It's just something I have noticed that I am doing lately. I don't think it is necessarily a detriment to the foot, but it's like a booger hanging out of your nose...even if you don't notice it, someone else will. If I do notice it, I may as well do something about it.
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    Gary Hill Active Member

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    I guess? I kinda see the whiteline alittle differant I guess? When I do need to use any kind of handmade, the hoof usually isnt the perfect pattern AFA looks at ?
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    scruggs1 Active Member

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    Not sure I am following you here.

    I was looking for more traction. I shoe feet, not patterns. :)
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    Gary Hill Active Member

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    What I am saying is that some feet that really do need a nice handmade are not the Perfect pattern thats all. So one must adapt to the shape of the hoof involved, they dont all match ya know?:D
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    Gary Hill Active Member

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    If you shoe any TWHs because of the way the previous owners/farriers like to keep the feet narrow and long, alot of them have a hind foot conformation..when I build a liteshod for it, the nail pattern will be where Ican get a good high nail.
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    Josh Ramsey Member

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    When people get to thinking on patterns they get in a rut. . .been there done that its not good. Kegs or handmades you have to fit what you have that day. Of that means punching extra nail holes in a keg shoe go for it.
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    Gary Hill Active Member

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    Mr. Perry Active Member

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    To this day i haven't seen a matched pair or set of feet on a horse or peoples.
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