Resection

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    Justin Decker Active Member

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    Horse had 2 cracks in the toe, have been trying to get under control, with no improvement, time to go a different route. Resected and did white lightning soak this morning.

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    Tom Bloomer Well-Known Member

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    Dave Whitaker Active Member

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    Justin, nice resection...tidy.... do you routinely leave resections this extensive barefoot with no support? Had good luck doing so? I do a lot of these but would have shod this one and added an aluminum plate across the front adhered to both sides. I don't know what the aluminum plate is doing, but I tell you the resulting growth is usually remarkable. I have consistently gotten resections as aggressive as this completely grown out in the six month range, where without the plate I would have been happy with 10 months....
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    Justin Decker Active Member

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    He's getting shod and patched up Thursday morning, on clean stall confinement at the moment. Going to do another white lightning treatment tomorrow.
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    Tom Bloomer Well-Known Member

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    Can I get fries with that? :D
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    brian robertson Active Member

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    I'd be willing to bet that if someone resected a TB, arab or expensive WB and left it unsupported like that, it would be trainwreck time. In my neck of the woods, these resections happen after they are shod. Otherwise I walk away.

    BTW, Check with Pat Riley about displaced P3s after wall removal.
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    Justin Decker Active Member

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    Brian there was dirt packed almost all the way to the tip in the middle so how much strength do you think was there before I resected?
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    Tom Bloomer Well-Known Member

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    Burney Chapman had some ideas about that as well.

    But in Justin's case and IME's it is very likely that the displacement has already happened due to gradual loss of horn integrity. It depends . . . YMMV .
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    Bill Adams Active Member

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    Even with a compromised hoof and dirt, which dose give some support between hoof and lamina, it's at least 100% better than nothing.
    I like going with a couple doses of Durasole, superfast, a metal strap glued on and quarter clips.
    As Brian said, I think just standing on it unsupported could cause trouble, depending.
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    brian robertson Active Member

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    My point was, that horse Justin is working on is not nearly as "fragile" as the horses I end up seeing with resections. You probably couldn't kill that one with a gun so it won't end up in trouble...
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    Justin Decker Active Member

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    There were a couple reasons I did what I did. Would I do this on another one, probably not. The cracks on both sides were all the way to the laminae, you could bend the piece of wall up with your fingers. There was no attachment from the tip in the middle down. I removed almost all of it with my nippers. The arches as Tom Bloomer would call them were the bacteria tracts from the cracks. As you can see this horse has extremely thick walls and exceptional strength to his feet. He has had the cracks for a good amount of time and never came up sore, about had them out during the drought and when we got some moisture they got worse in 2 trimming cycles. His frog is large and healthy and even with the hoofwall. He is standing in a deeply bedded stall(fine sawdust) which IMO would give him support across his foot just like a hoof packing.

    The people who are taking care of him are let's just say highly aware of the slightest little thing!! I also wanted to make sure we had all the bacteria killed, he was soaked again today with white lightning. Steel and nail heads have a tendency to cut plastic bags.

    And Bill he got treated with durasole after the white lightning.
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    Justin Decker Active Member

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    He is an Irish Warmblood Brian, was imported by the owner and was going prelim till he tore a suspensory in the hind end. Picture a 16.2 hand clydesdale with tb legs.
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    Justin Decker Active Member

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    Well he was still upright this morning. 13 1/2 inch 3/8x1, I went back an polished it off with more glue where the cobra sock was showing and filled with equipak.

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    Justin Decker Active Member

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    French roll thru the toe also to help hold things together.
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    Tom Bloomer Well-Known Member

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    That ought ta stick around a while. Nice goin' :)
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    Western Hill Forge Active Member

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    Tidy work Justin.

    Regards
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    Tom Bloomer Well-Known Member

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    With Christmas coming up you might want to get some of that carbon/Kevlar hybrid fabric in red . . .

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    Raka has it.

    And green . . .
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    Dave Whitaker Active Member

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    Very nice, Justin.....

    Most of the resection/displacement studies that I have seen of Pat's were resections of lamanitic feet that still had some degree of attachment before resection and showed measurable displacement afterwards.... I think in some of these very chronic seedy toes that have almost made the hairline, the detachment has already been in place for months.... I do think, though, that the dorsal wall is still holding the foot together to some degree and that re-stabilization post resection aids in the rate of new wall growth..... kind of what the Nolan plate guys were championing before they got carried away and insisted their hunk of metal cured everything including World hunger... ;)

    Dave
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    Bill Adams Active Member

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    That Durasole is probably the main reason any of mine ever turn out any kind of good at all.
    Nice job outa you on the finished product.
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    david a hall Moderator

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    Thats an excellent job. Interestingly I dont think that foot is compromised at all, P3 would be sitting quite high in that capsule. If ever any of you guys have gone hunting for a keratoma in a foot like that, put a pen mark on the front of the foot where you think it will be and I guarantee your mark will be an inch low.

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