Medial displacement followed by quarter crack

On a similar situation I tried a really ugly shoe fit like this. Every time I look at this shoe I can't believe I nailed this on a horse's foot. But After it was on the foot it seemed to make sense. Though the lateral branch looks short, it didn't look that way on the foot. Pastern inserted offset on medial side of coffin joint. Had a medial crack when I started. Grew out the crack and relaxed coronary band with this ugly shoe shape in about 4 months. Shoe was set back quite a bit with heels fit to origin of growth.

I am a big fan of the Myron McClain and Castle frog support pads..I still pack with forsners and let the pad do the job..float both heels ..kinda passive way of going..

To make a visible to the inter hoof capsular of Scruggs case:

? Are you saying the radiograph you posted is similar to or the same as Scrugg's? Or is the hoof morphology and the horse's conformation that belongs with the horse in the above radiograph similar to the one Scrugg's is working on?

The medial aspect of the coffin bone looks like a bovine head with a unicorn horn? What am I Drinkin tonight???

My money is that this is the hoof Scruggs is working on..

Tom, if I trimmed this foot more along the sole plane, and if this were a LF instead of a RF, it would probably drop right on that foot...and that is pretty much exactly what the shoes looked like prior to the last laminitic episode. Perhaps I should give some consideration to going back to that.

Gary, I am also a huge fan of the castle frog support pad...used more of them than all other pads combined. Will likely put a pair of them on Tuesday with both heels floated.

Dyslexic brew? The unicorn horn is on the lateral side.

That is not mine. However, the joint spaces on that one appear to be pinched laterally and opened medially...indicating out of M/L balance or medial displacement...which the displacement itself creates the lack of M/L balance, if one subscribes to the idea that joint spaces should be even and I am one of those subscribers.


Some more thoughts. Interesting and thought provoking conversation with Mr. Reilly at lunch today. People (or at least this person) generally ass-u-mes that the wall posterior to a heel/quarter crack moves outward...hence the idea behind clipping them to 'stabilize them'. Not true. The wall posterior to a crack can move outward, inward, upward, downward, etc. As is usually the case, there seems to be no definitives; instead, I just wind up with a growing list of questions.

Not that my opinion matters much but I think you did a very thorough, and thoughtful job.
Great documentation of the work too.

Thanks! I just hope my thoughts and efforts wind up doing the horse a favor...and that we all may learn something from each other with the discussion.

Scruggs; without x-rays it is very difficult to know what's going on; and I feel for you and difficulty and pressure you must be under right now.
Have you thought this could be more of a lateral collateral ligament; and shoe and trim more for that? there is a lateral collateral ligament type shoe. (Deniox) series........just a thought; but I could be wrong.

I have a horse to shoe on Friday with a stress fracture of the navicular bone..vet called and said ,"I want you to cast it, and I mean pull 4 clips, two at the second nail and two behind the widest part of the foot and fit it tight"! So thats what I will be doing Friday morning.. Hind foot...

I think I would use the widest point of the sole rather than the widest point of wall. Medial displacement in the quarter then the wall thins out right behind the WPF. IMO, you wpf line is fairly far off.

From what I've seen the WPF is generally further forward laterally and back medially so it goes opposite direction of breakover.

Justin, Eric why funny.......look at post #1 as he said; gave note to it.

This is how I went about fitting these types of feet for years. I really don't agree with it anymore.

I don't know the math or science behind it but by setting the shoe back and cheating the medial toe you are no longer utilizing the wall in those areas to support the foot.

every one who started that; sunk after a while.
a foundered foot grows 3x faster than a normal foot.

Correct.

I think I'll trust John when he says this horse has had numerous laminitic episodes.

I've seen plenty of collateral ligament injuries and haven't seen displacement due to them.

the problem is not the toe eric. it;s the palmar processes and pedal bone of the caudual portions of the foot.