I'll ask my daughter; she recently got those AFA templates for her b-day and should be done with them shortly (if her shoe board passes this upcoming certification) My fingers crossed.
Brian, if you have a flatbed scanner you can put the templates on the glass and scan them to an 81/2" x 11" PDF document. Email the document to Draftshoer. Draftshoer prints the document . . . and there you have your templates.
Tom I need the actual metal templates. I'll buy them through the AFA if I have to. I was just hoping I could get out cheaper if somebody had a pair they were through with and wanted to sell.
Once you get the paper templates, copy them to a piece of aluminum and cut them out yourself. Cheaper than ordering.
The rules state that you can make your own template. Just show frog, white line, and notch for clips. a thin piece of sheet metal and a sharpie are all you need.
Michael, please check the current rules about the template deal. I never used a template. It was not required in the rules up to 2008 and I hope that hasn't changed. Back when I took the exams all your fronts had to match and all your hinds had to match. The examiner would just pick one of your front shoes and use it as the pattern for examining the rest of the front shoes, then do the same with the hinds. When the templates came out it seems to me that a lot of folks got the idea that you had to use their templates and that lie got repeated enough that eventually the democrats started selling templates and taxing them. If the rules changed to require providing a template showing frog and white line and clip cutouts for an exam based on keg shoe modifications, that's a silly rule and it is redundant in the overall CF exam requirements because fitting the shoe with regards to the frog and white line is covered in the live shoeing phase of the exam. How do they decide if your clips are pitched to match the hoof angle when the template isn't a hoof? Nail pitch? Can they fail you on the exam because they think your SX8 keg shoe nail line is too course or too fine? Did they add "nail line matching white line" to the score sheet? Maybe I'll go retake the CF exam using a draft sized template. It will be TOO BIG TO FAIL!
Tom you need to go get updated 2008 was a long time ago. The rules have changed. Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk
As I understand it, you don't have to use their templates. You do however have to provide a front and hind template made of metal. It has to show the hoof wall, white line, frog and has to have cutouts for the clips.
Tom the book is in my truck. I will check in the am. We do want to see if you will bleed one with nails. Notching is simply to make it so the shoe can sit directly on the template to take away any guessing about fit. The frog comes into play for fit as well. If all your shoes are sitting on the frog the shoe does not fit. whoever said test cant be redundant. Is it redundant or just good sound work?
The choice of keg shoe is going to dictate how the white line is drawn on the template since the nail holes are already punched in the shoe by the manufacturer. As such, one must either buy the template, then find keg shoes that are course or fine enough to fit, or make a custom template with the white line scribed to fit the nail line on the chosen keg shoes. Also, one can draw the frog to work with the heel checks in the keg shoe or one can grind the heel checks to fit the existing template. In my opinion the templates add nothing to the exam that didn't already exist. Any qualified tester or examiner should immediately be able to tell if all the shoes fit the same pattern and if the clips are properly made. Meanwhile, next time you shoe a horse, cut in the places in the wall where your clips will go, then forge your clips to fit exactly in those cutouts. That should be an interesting challenge. No filing the clips to fit - that's cheating.
Tom you are smart enough to have come to that conclusion about the white line and the horses frog. But sadly enough many people don't get that. I'm just the messenger I don't make any of the rules.
I haven't seen the AFA templates, but I'm guessing that the white line is drawn 3/8 inch from the outside of the shoe, same as most keg shoes. As far as the heel checks, isn't that just basic? I agree with Tom on the slots for the clips. That's kind of a leap into fantasy land. Tom's probably right about the guy making the templates. Regards
I'm 99 percent sure that Mr Jim Poore of flat land Forge built the first templates for the AFA. I don't think he was doing it then to get rich off of people's backs with a simple template but rather to give everyone the same playing field to start from. I think the smaller template idea originated as something smaller for the examiners to carry Then the large cast they carry for guys to make modifications or shoes for. the idea then expanded from there I don't know if he still produces them today.
