Are you able to view this thread-if so what are your thoughts?

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by lizzi forde, Jan 20, 2014.

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    lizzi forde New Member

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    Draftshoer Active Member

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    No, I cannot view it. Instead of a link to Facebook, how about giving us a rundown on what you are wanting our opinion on.
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    Western Hill Forge Active Member

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    I get "this content is currently unavailable".

    Let me guess, some barefoot guru posted a picture of a butchered barefoot trim, claimed it to be the ultimate in hoof care, and then got so slammed that she removed the picture.

    That, or they posted a picture of a poor shoeing job, way over due, and said something like "see? shoes are evil".

    LOL, Am I close?

    Regards
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    david a hall Moderator

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    I recon you could be right.
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    lizzi forde New Member

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    It's a video of zebra hoof trimming, I was involved in domestic equids, then 'wild' native species: Dartmoor ponies from the moors that were going to be culled that we tamed and re-schooled. Then I did a degree at a land based college and have since worked domestic equids as well zebras and Somali wild ass in the zoo industry. This was a video of a zebra being trained to have... and having it's hooves trimmed that caused me some concern and I wanted another opinion before approached them as it is not a collection I work at. The right hind leg was pulled out so the hip was lifted up and outwards, the fetlock being placed on top of their knee/thigh not under and through, causing the weight of the animal to be thrust onto the front left where another person appears to be supporting the zebra. The keeper is then filing on the outer wall of the toe and so the video proceeds for about 4 mins.
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    lizzi forde New Member

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    lol western hill forge: "she" is more politely referred to as Lizzi as my status says. If Rick or David require my opinion on shoeing it is that shoeing has it's need as per the situation as does no-shoes and routine trimming and I would not ever argue the need for farriery or corrective shoeing. This is the first post I have made to this site, for genuine help in order to hopefully gain advise.

    If the attitude I have received is really quite descriptive of this forum, particularly from 'agreeing' moderator comments then this is not the forum unto which I would wish to consult.

    Thank you for such a critical and demonic reception!!!!
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    Draftshoer Active Member

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    So you are saying that the person who is holding the foot has it pulled up too high and/or too far out?
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    Draftshoer Active Member

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    I re read your description and if I am understanding you, then what you are describing sounds like the typical way of holding a hind leg. It also sounded like you thought the person holding the leg should have had the leg stuck between his legs in the same manner as is typical for holding a front leg. This would be a VERY dangerous way to hold a hind leg.
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    lizzi forde New Member

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    Okay, that makes sense. My worry was the animal looks like it is about to fall over, the hind leg is pulled out to the side of the body, i had thought that it is supposed to come out and back not be pulled out to the side so the hip is lifted so high. I do wish the video worked. The way in which they were filing left and right horizontally aross the front of the hoof also seemed odd as i have only every seen what i would describe as vertical. I would like to add that the person does not appear to be a farrier, they are dressed in normal keeper attire with the collections logo on the clothing. Thank you for your response Draftshoer.
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    Western Hill Forge Active Member

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    Sometimes you have to hold the leg where the horse (zebra) wants it. Horses with stifle problems sometimes prefer to have their leg held out to the side, rather than back. Or, maybe they just don't know what they are doing. As far as the rasping technique, it's hard to say it's right nor wrong, especially without seeing it. I often rasp "across the foot", especially to find the heels.

    Regards
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    brian robertson Active Member

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    I think the zebra and the folks that own it, should be happy if they can find anybody willing to trim it even an amateur.
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    david a hall Moderator

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    I wasn't picked as a moderator for my skills, just my looks.
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    chris bunting Well-Known Member

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    good job your green hair covers your face IMO , lol
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    lizzi forde New Member

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    Thank you very much for your professional opinion Rick Shepard!
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    Dave Whitaker Active Member

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    Without seeing the video it's pretty hard to answer you accurately. However, I have trimmed Zebras on several occasions and my experience is that they aren't the most "willing" participants. The zoo that I do the work for heavily sedates them to be handled. If these guys are trimming this Zebra while standing and fully alert, without anyone getting killed, I would say that they were doing OK....

    Dave
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