Unbreakable Rules

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    Bill Adams Active Member

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    In normal shoeing do you have Rules that you never vary from? Things like always fit full to the toe, flat shoe on a flat foot, the sole should never touch the shoe, always use the toe nail holes, and others you've been taught.
    What are some other rules, and what are some you don't hold to?
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    Draftshoer Active Member

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    Rule #1. Get the check
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    Mikel Dawson Active Member

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    Or better yet - cash. Make appointment for next time. Don't use toe nails, as for me they are too far forward (Read Martin Kenny's study).
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    Draftshoer Active Member

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    Mikel reminded me of my one true hard and fast rule which is to schedule the next appointment. I never really thought about any aspect of shoeing as an unbreakable rule but more like guidelines to steer me to how the horse I am under at the time needs to be shod.
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    Western Hill Forge Active Member

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    Always check my notes, and look over the whole horse before starting work.

    Always look at the hoof before you pick it up. Make a mental note of what you expect to see. If, after picking it up, you don't see what you expected, put it down, look again, and adjust your "plan".


    Always box and safe.

    Regards
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    Jack Evers Active Member

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    Never again do one that isn't standing up, preferably with the only rope involved being a lead rope.
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    ray steele Administrator

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    never work alone. by that, at a minimum someone responsable must be on the property checking in.

    ray
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    david a hall Moderator

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    I have lots of rules all of them un breakable, Flexable but un breakable.
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    Dave Whitaker Active Member

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    I agree with Ray above.... I won't work alone....

    And though I run my practice as a COD operation, occasionally I'll let someone "pay me later"..... I won't ever work on a horse for someone that owes me money for previous work.....

    Dave
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    gary evans old and slow

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    Notes?
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    gary evans old and slow

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    Is that a rule?
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    Bill Adams Active Member

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    It's how I was taught, haven't done that for twenty years though.
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    smitty88 Well-Known Member

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    What do mean Bill by fit full to the toe,primeter fit?
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    Bill Adams Active Member

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    Yes John. I was taught that the shoe should touch a ruler set on the dorsal surface of the hoof at the toe.
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    smitty88 Well-Known Member

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    I have no problem with perimeter fit Bill
    when the trim is good
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    david a hall Moderator

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    Bill do you do NB now? Or have I miss understood.
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    gary evans old and slow

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    I don't get this thing about toe nails. I have read that paper and, whilst you can't fault his observations, I think his conclusions are flawed - I think it's the trim that is causing the phenomenon he documents, not the position of the nails (but what do I know).

    I have seen, and done, thousands of shoeings where the toe nail holes have been utilised with no adverse effects.

    This horse I did yesterday was shod on Jan 8th (12 weeks), the toe nail holes were used and I don't see any problem they have caused.

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    ray steele Administrator

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    I haven t read the study/paper but can tell you that on more than one occasion i ve nailed up broken hooves with 2 holes in the toe, and one in each heel, never using the manufacturers holes, so they,the holes were in front of and behind the factory holes, .....and saw no adverse effect.

    I also remember when the standard protocol was to never use the last nail holes, more than once got a lecture/advice from a vet or owner about what was read somewhere.

    ray
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    brian robertson Active Member

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    Ray, was that before or after the dinosaurs went extinct?
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    brian robertson Active Member

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    Gary has it right, it will always be about the trim

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