How are you passively supporting those structures? Does the "orthotic" actually make contact with the bulbs?
LOL, I'm not falling back on anything. That shoe is hardly a banana and not much more than a wedge pad with some spacers.
In the same manner as any shoe that is fit such that a line dropped from the bulb of the heels to the ground touches the heels of said shoe as opposed to the one pictured where the bulbs look like they are falling off the edge of a cliff. Make that whole package longer and IME the horse ends up far more comfortable and willing to stride out. No, the orthotic doesn't actually make contact with the bulbs. As you have noted, there is not much of a banana in that shoe so, IMNTBCHO, it is even more likely that that package, as applied, over time, will 'do some damage'.
So you're saying as bulbs flatten out and distort out the back into little points you follow your shoe right out to it? Do you do the same for club feet?
Just today I shod a horse that both fronts looked as bad or worst due to wearing a shoe two times too small and it was still dubbed all around..moved up to an 0 and didnt feel I needed any wedge . Horse was of course very sore and owner couldnt understand why because it had only been 10 weeks since shod that way??? Cheap Hero Day!!
I'm gathering that you're saying that the extra shoe heel acts as a lever, much like an extended toe would. I could believe that. Even if it only touches the ground when the foot first lands. I'm having a hard time understanding how the extended heel could support the foot if the shoe heel was off the ground, but it WOULD allow to chose at what position he would like to place his weight. ie: he could chose how he stands. Regards
When you you put those types of shoes on, you are dictating how the horse is going to load the foot. They either land flat or the top of the banana catches and throws the foot down to the toe. You can add shoe well beyond the bulb and it won't change a thing.
It Depends. Each hoof, each situation is different and unique and I do my best to take that into account. That said, When shoeing a hoof such as the one under review, where I am using a lot of pads, especially wedges, I tend to set the package under the hoof in much the same way I shoe a foot waver., ie: lots of caudal support and breakover set accordingly. Which means that while the package may be seen as some to be an extension of the dorsal wall, the toe of the shoe is rolled or rockered to keep the breakover back where *I* think it belongs. As noted, It Depends. It Depends. IME, many club feet already have the heels back under the bulbs so in that instance, I fit to the buttress. If the heels, even after trimming, are still run forward, then yes, I fit the shoe, especially because it is likely that I have added a wedge or wedges to the package so that the heels are back where *I* think they belong. And sometimes that necessitates the addition of long spoons to the package. And I am also, simultaneously. addressing the distortions, when present, in the front of the hoof.
"Stumpy feet": fit tight or AFA certified style. "Stumpy feet" have good heel that need no support. 9/10 times the stumpy foot looses the shoe.....
Not necessarily. Or they land heel first. In any event, because of the way stride works, they will come to the toe. How fast they do that will depend on how much banana curve there is. And, in the standing horse, the banana shoe , which Redden also refers to as a "self-adjusting palmer angle shoe" allows the horse to do just that--self adjust its palmer angle. In which case, being what I feel in the referenced photo, is short shod, the horse truly can't do that without inflicting damage/pain which in time alters posture, stride and comfort. As my experience is different than yours, it would seem that we will just have to agree to disagree.
Or they land heel first. In any event, because of the way stride works, they will come to the toe. How fast they do that will depend on how much banana curve there is. And, in the standing horse, the banana shoe , which Redden also refers to as a "self-adjusting palmer angle shoe" allows the horse to do just that--self adjust its palmer angle. In which case, being what I feel in the referenced photo, is short shod, the horse truly can't do that without inflicting damage/pain which in time alters posture, stride and comfort. As my experience is different than yours, it would seem that we will just have to agree to disagree. [/quote] Thus IMEs the suspensory is an "angery Mo' Fo' ". Patch work farriery as stated to Ron's hero Ric redden. We are friends and i spend $ w/ Ric. Protocal suxs; we respect. As stated; "what works is real'
It depends. In the referenced photo, the back of that shoe is acting as a 'pressure point' and forcing the hoof capsule to accept load in an inappropriate manner/location. As the load descends the heels of the shoe provide [solid] static resistance. In that absence the hoof can become overloaded in that area each and every time the horse loads that hoof. Couple that with force applied upwards by the ground and the unsupported part of the hoof gets compromised. Yes! And that has many implications for stride, muscular compensation, gait evenness,comfort, etc.
