Bleeding Crack

Discussion in 'Shoeing Horses with Lameness Issues' started by Mikel Dawson, Feb 28, 2013.

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    Mikel Dawson Active Member

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    Got an emergency call today. A horse kicked the edge of a piece of stainless steel in his box. It split the LH, medial toe from the horn wall into the point of the frog and bleeding

    Hilltop crack 002a.jpg Hilltop crack 005a.jpg .

    And the crack runs up the front of the horn wall from ground to hairline, bleeding all the way.

    I put on a bar shoe with side clips, two on each side and a hospital plate.
    I was lucky the vet was there to shoot up the horse, but no x-rays. I just hope there is no damage to P3. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
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    joe bill There went my twenty!!!

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    I bet the vet was more glad that you were there? GREAT Job!!!!!

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    smitty88 Well-Known Member

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    did you take any pics of the job
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    Mikel Dawson Active Member

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    Hilltop crack 006a.jpg
    Only one I got was with the hospital plate on. I used a Jim Blurton barshoe. Was a good fit with a little shaping.
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    smitty88 Well-Known Member

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    well done
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    Gabino Active Member

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    Mikel, I can see a good barn whit a good box whit good wooden stuff,probably no cheap. I can see a good work of farriery,probably no cheap. I understand the owner is not a poor,then,why no vet and rads?
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    Mikel Dawson Active Member

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    I had a vet on site. I stated I would need the horse shotup to shoe it when I talked to the vet on the phone, but the vet was not a regular horse vet. But she was smart enough to call the horse clinic to talk to the regular horse vet and get advice. After I arrived she again called the horse clinic and had me talk to the vet there. We decided on the protocal to use. The horse was lame enough I wouldn't want to trailer it anywhere. I did advise her to get an x-ray as there could be P3 damage.
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    david a hall Moderator

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    travis dupree reed Active Member

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    Tom b and rick.b ....please interject in this post on how you feel this could play out if goes wrong... A farrier on the phone with vet come up with protocol and no xray done base on farrier information relay to vet over phone..and farrier left with recommend get xrays... ........mikel I'm in no way saying you done anything wrong or out of the ordinary in fact you done a nice job on your part although I would have like to see an xray just to be safe as I'm sure you would have to..the reason for my question is a spin off from the thread about farrier trim a foot for shoe and left barefoot..as I feel this case is along the same lines as the hypothetical thread we had going...
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    david a hall Moderator

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    No lets not interject with legal hypothesis.
    This is a good post for the op to keep us informed on the horses progress not to turn it into the boring rubbish on the other thread. If you want to do that put the question in there.
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    Tom Bloomer Well-Known Member

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    WTF Travis, it was an emergency. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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    travis dupree reed Active Member

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    Yea I know so we gonna talk to the vet on the phone a come up with protocol .. sounds far more risky than walking off after a trim huh..I guess I just run my business different..
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    travis dupree reed Active Member

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    What the hell is to report..there's no xray to go of of..maybe we can guess on how its going..just because you may feel the other thread had no value to you that's fine but don't tell me what the hell I'm to find useful...
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    travis dupree reed Active Member

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    Was a simple question of how they would handle this case
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    travis dupree reed Active Member

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    Was a simple question of how they would handle this case
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    Mikel Dawson Active Member

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    I had a vet standing right beside me taking responsibility for the case. It was an emergency issue and I expressed my concerns to the owner in front of the vet and she agreed. I don't know what else can be done. I don't see any ethical delima, but I do understand the concern, as I also have the concern for what might have happened.
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    travis dupree reed Active Member

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    I would have done the exact same the mikel..my question is more about the vet not exray..and about the never ending on going threads over the years about farriers going against what they feel is not the best way..it was brought up in the barefoot/ she ..and it was said I could be held responsible for nailing up a shoeing I posted here for the vet because I did not agree with it and it was said I should have walked awat
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    Rick Burten Professional farrier

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    'Bout like comparing gold to fool's gold. Regardless, if the farrier was uncomfortable with the vet's prescription, the farrier, at that point can still walk away. So, in reality, not at all the same as the trimming case presented.
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    travis dupree reed Active Member

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    Thanks rick..that's all i ask for was a simple reply as such of how one would handle..it
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    Justin Decker Active Member

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