Clinchers or Clinch block?

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    KyleK Member

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    What method for clinching do you guys prefer? Or do you use the clinch block to pull the nails tighter and seat them into the wall with the clinchers?

    Just curious about how others do it.

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    Jack Evers Active Member

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    Some don't use the block, I don't know if necessary as long as you have a level shoe against a level foot, but for me it puts the nail in a good position for the clinchers - I wring, don't use nail cutters. I generally use the cblock unless the horse is sore.
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    ray steele Administrator

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    I use adjustable clenchers.
    stopped blocking and have not carried a block for a long time.

    Regards

    Ray
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    david a hall Moderator

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    You still using my adjustable clinchers Ray?
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    gary evans old and slow

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    I don't use a clenching block, but use the jaws of my cutters to achieve the same result.
    I then use clenching tongs to finish folding the clench into the wall.
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    ray steele Administrator

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    David,

    just keeping them warm for you , till you get ready to part with some of your money!

    Regards

    Ray
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    ray steele Administrator

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    Gary,

    I was taught to use the head of my pull offs, I guessing what you call "cutters" are what I call pull offs, but I have yet to understand how hammering a fully driven nail against any kind of a blocking tool achieves anything.

    I say this because, to me anyway, a nail head can only be driven so deep into a piece of steel,once the head seats, i don t see how additional blows improve anything. Can you explain it?

    Thanks

    Ray
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    KyleK Member

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    From my understanding.. When using a clinch block and hammer it promotes the nail bending at the base instead of curling over. Putting your clench at a good angle with the wall and flat.

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    ray steele Administrator

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    KyleK,

    i ve heard that along with seating the nail,

    I guess i m just dumb nough to ask, if it promotes the nail bend ,would that be by starting the bend? if so where does the nail stock to start the bend come from?

    if you feel that this conversation is hi jacking your thread, i ll delete my posts and start another thread.

    Regards

    Ray
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    david a hall Moderator

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    Helps me get higher nails back in line.... Ray are they appreciating or depreciating?
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    KyleK Member

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    Ray,

    Perfectly fine. Naturally the next thing to ask after finding out what others use is to ask why and why not.. What they figure they accomplish by doing it their way.

    Obviosly there is no appreciable amount of nail coming out to form the bend. I imagine by hitting the nail into the clench block your doing the exact same thing as clenching tongs but rather than pulling the nail down by the tip. Your forcing it outwards from the base of where the nail exits the hoof wall.

    If there is any extra length added to the nail its because your tearing the hoof wall down with the clench
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    ray steele Administrator

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    If there is any extra length added to the nail its because your tearing the hoof wall down with the clench[/quote]

    I think David refers to this action as,"getting the high nails back in line"!



    Ray
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    KyleK Member

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    michael mackie New Member

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    kylek, can you elaborate on that image that you posted.

    i used shoe pullers for clinching for many years. i guess any solid steel object will do the job. on soft feet i clinch light, and hard feet i clinch harder.
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    KyleK Member

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    That image is from the first Lord of the Rings movie of the evil bad guys horses. The shoes appear to be nailed on with 3" carpenters nails and bent at odd angles (for movie effect I hope)
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    Clint Burrell Active Member

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    I use a block and clinchers. Not on all horses though w/ the block. I've found w/ sore footed horses that blocking helps seat the nail w/o pounding the hell out of the foot. Of course everyone is different as far as hammer weight and how hard they hit the nail. I use a light hammer, 6 oz Horsehead. Guess Rick B. would say, "It just depends".
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    michael mackie New Member

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    just looks like blood is coming out of the hoof to the right in the pic. wear the nails come out. yeah, its just a movie pic. bit of and odd pic to me though (no i don,t think your odd)
    cheers.
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    KyleK Member

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    It is odd, whenever I think of a bad nail up this image comes to mind.. Maybe that makes me odd. I was interested in shoeing when I was young. When I watched the film it kinda stuck with me
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    KyleK Member

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    So you get it started with the block then finish with clencher?
    Of course everyone has different variables. And every horse is different. Agree 100% with the "it just depends"
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    Draftshoer Active Member

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    I use a block or a rasp, whichever I can get to easiest. Smitty has been telling me I am pulling my clinches down to far so I may try just using my clinchers and not block the nails first.

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