Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by smitty88, Jan 17, 2013.
anybody try out the smiths icar hoof nippers
hope i have the right name
I haven't. But over here they are same price as GE's. If price is that close to GE, I'm going with GE.
Cody Gilreath, CF
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The publicity are too aggressive.
When has anybody produced a 'simply better' pair of nippers than GE over the past decades?. If so, what happened to them?.
Nice to think it may be these. I found it hard to find out much about the company on the interweb. Anybody know more than just that these things just sprung into the marketplace?. Is it a new farrier tool manufacturer or a new brand from an existing one?.
I am told they are at hand with farriers in Texas and they like them. I would certainly guess rock solid hard feet may provide a rapid determinant for effectiveness for farrier and hoofwork. Time will tell.
Paddy Falvey CF
I have some ten year old Deltas, great on big feet, the handles are much more comfortable in your hand.
These are the guys making the Farriers tools ,not only nippers ,but nail nippers ...and hoof Knives ....pull offs .
They are a traditional company set up from the start of the 70's by three craftsmen in a town in Italy ..
In the past making cutlery ,scissors and many other cutting edges ...they understand their craft .
I will try ,and post more info
Look on Facebook for ICAR ...
Regards Ray ...
I want to try a pair. (head over block, arse annointed). Will be ordering some from Wellshod next week. I know GE are basically very excellent (no issues at all), but agree Cody, 200 or so bucks for known versus the same for GE is a punt, and a chancy one. I hear they have a different rivet job and discard loose hoof - ok don't have any issue there with GE. Here goes 220 bucks!. Will try them out and be back.
Paddy Falvey CF
200 bucks..... a NZ farrier's dream. GE's are over $400 here
I went to the Summit with intentions of bringing a pair home, I didn't. The things weigh about twice as much as GE very heavy, I didn't like anything about them. The operation of them was sticky, the rein would not come back to you to grab a hold one handed without some help I think I tried 8 pair all sticky. They are bolted together not riveted maybe the cause. The head is very bulky, they didn't look like they would cut easily. They may be great on hard feet because they are made heavy enough not to flex. Then when the price came out I walked away, He said they were $40 off for a total of $249.
Made me wonder ,I took 4 random pairs ,2 15",2 14" to see if I could see what Justin was talking about ...
Black and Classic ...
The nippers have a very thin layer of varnish for transport to protect them as they travel all over the world ...
These two sizes are big ,not sure about heavy ??
ICAR are producing Racetrack and 12" ....
Also as requested by USA there is a between size in the jaws and head which will be a light version for those working on smaller Animals .....
As for Price I can only look at Www.well-shod.com ...
Hairdressers here pay between 300€ and 1500€ for scissors they use everyday ...my nippers payed for themselves in one day with profit ......:-/
tried them at stoneleigh last year , nothing special IMO
The system with the bolt is so the factory can set them up with more care ..... They are not just bolted through but have a counter thread inside and fitted with lock tight ...this will make it easier in years to come if they need rebuilding ,also ...
This service is one of ICARs ,because they Forge ,and set up each pair at their own Factory themselves ....
The area has over 600 years of forging history and the ICAR over 40 years of making Cutting Tools
Your Feed backs are listened to ,and reached on
Some feedback on a 14" pair of ICAR nippers purchased from Wellshod for $220 a pair:-
- The nipper jaws are same width as GE.
- They weight 1 ounce more ONLY. My 14" GE weigh 1, 10.6oz, the ICAR 1, 11.6 oz.
- The first feel of them was that the handles were different, they have a triangular section compared to a elliptical section, but are smooth, after a couple of more horses and I find them totally comfortable. Infact I prefer the 1/2" extra wide reins width all the way down to the rivet as I get more grip and hold into the hoof. The sit is better for a nice line around the wall.
- The effort torque to use them is alot less, maybe as the rivet is set closer to the jaws this helps. On feet left awhile between trims no clogging up. And much better work to get into hard overgrown feet and save time / effort.
- Sharpness very good, but I will see how they are a few months down the road. Horses seem to accept the nip without issue at this time, no easing back and feel as they slice thru really well.
I like them. How they will be in 6 months time, I don't know. But I prefer them to 14" GE Easy from new, these are certainly more easy to use.
Glad I tried them, but time will tell if they last out as good as GE.
Paddy Falvey CF
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