New concept in the navicular treatment

Discussion in 'Shoeing Horses with Lameness Issues' started by Gabino, Oct 23, 2012.

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    Gabino Active Member

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    A lady sent me this pic.It's a "new treatment and shoeing" for the navicular disease and quarter crack:mad::mad:. The next week,I'll go to visite the horse.I'll show and tell about that.I'm waiting the rads.

    I don't understand some vets and ¿¿farriers??.What's that shoeing???




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    Platerforge Guest

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    can't see the pic??????
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    Platerforge Guest

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    oh I have seen this before; what a mess. the wedge is for raising the heels and the bar for support of raising; but what about the crack????
    some come up with some of the most stupid packages for they can't shoe
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    George Spear Member

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    The package is irrelevant if the underlying trim is incorrect.
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    david kelly Dave Kelly

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    Nasty crack looking forward to seeing what you do with it
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    Gabino Active Member

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    Yesterday I shod the horse. Rock and roll shoe,heel floated and impression dental material. cristinaleon2.JPG
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    Rick Burten Professional farrier

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    How is that a r&r shoe? If IM fills in the area you floated, is that not self-defeating?
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    Gabino Active Member

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    The IM is very soft,about 30 shore. It's more soft than the dirty that will fill the floated area.
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    david a hall Moderator

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    What is the rational behind this shoe? Does it have any literature with it?
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    George Spear Member

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    Farriers depot has them

    http://www.farriersdepot.com/colleoni.aspx

    Price: $69.00
    Manufacturer: Colleoni
    Part #: CO-B

    Rock N Roll Aluminium Horseshoes bring the latero medial break over closer to the center of the foot, diminishing the articular and ligamentory strain on turning, on irregular ground or in the case of toe in or out conformation. It also diminishes the unevenly distributed stresses on the laminar suspension of PIII within the hoof capsule which is important for laminitis therapy.

    Available in sizes 0-3. Sold in pairs.
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    david a hall Moderator

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    Thank you George.Any one want to translate that and make it sound plausable because I would say it would work in the reverse to the claims in the blurb.
    Looking at that crack it wouldnt supprise me if p3 was counter rotated and more on the crack side.
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    Eric Russell Active Member

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    For the price I don't think I'd even you that shoe as a door stop.
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    Gabino Active Member

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    No.I can see the rad and the pastern axis is broken backwards.

    More info about rock and roll shoe here;

    http://www.mascalcia.net/articoli/a2003_56.htm
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    david a hall Moderator

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    Marc Jerram FdSc AWCF www.thefarrier.co.uk

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    The diagrams in that article appear to be completley inaccurate in my opinion.
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    Rick Burten Professional farrier

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    Seems to me that the shoe is much like the Steward Clog especially as regards it mechanical properties. I think that it wouldn't be my first, second or third choice for dealing with a quarter crack.
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    brian robertson Active Member

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    I know it's only anedotal but one ofthe dressage horses that medaled at the WEG was wearing those & the were 3 horses wearing them at the London Olympics including the Spanish national champion. Not the shoe for all horses by any means but worth a try on a "trainwreck" when nothing else is working...
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    david a hall Moderator

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    Brian I have an issue with that, I don't mind that a shoe works, but I want to understand the horse in question and know which bits of the shoe ameliorate and which bits cause pressure in inappropriate places. We chuck in phrases like train wreck, well what the hell does that mean? There are specific conditions, pathologies, diseases, conditions. If we are going to experiment with a shoe it is a good idea to know what is wrong and how that shoe might help.
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    brian robertson Active Member

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    Unfortunately, the folks with high level(very expensive) horses don't feel the need to share their horse's issues with the public. Maybe we could get Hans Castelijns to come on board and explain his use of these shoes?
    I have reset a pair of the USA version of these, fabricated from a 5/16" alum plate with a alum pony shoe rivetted to the center. I was told the horse had severe ringbone and navicular lesions but with this package was able to successfully compete at the FEI level dressage without medication. I was worried about doing the work, but had an excellent script for the trim/shoe placement and was quite relieved when they rode the horse after the shoeing. Horse, trainer and rider all happy. Whew!
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    david a hall Moderator

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    Good reply :D

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