uses of the patten shoe

As per the rules Pard . As per the latest and greatest; "adjustable over a period of time". In my cases I use 1/8' inch pads stacked. one is removed 3-5 days at a time. If our 'Diva Denise' would stop relating to 'ole school S333t there maybe some head way on re-habbing some of the "tendon issues". Yup, girl threw it in your Lap!

Seems to me that at some point (very high angles as depicted) the patten bar shoe ceases to function like a wedge and acts more like two legs of a tripod with the toe of the foot being the third leg. I wouldn't knock it without trying it and I wouldn't hesitate to try it - you can always pull it off and try something else. ;-)

Hey, I am just asking questions. Based on understanding of biomechanics, raising the heel takes tension off the ddft and places it on the sft and sl. If the patten shoe is doing this, how could it help the sft heal from a tear or bow? If raising the heel places more tension in the sl why does it give relief to horses suffering from DSLD? Or is the function of the patten shoe to take the injured leg out of weight bearing and place weight bearing on the good leg? Again, why or how could that help a DSLD horse if they are placed on both hinds?
My reason for asking these questions is because it has been stated on fb that hoof trimmers shouldn't knock what they don't understand. I am not knocking the patten shoe (or any shoeing for that matter), but trying to understand what it is that farriers understand about the patten shoe and how or why it works and appears to work in seemingly contradictory situations..

Ur "worming" things together. Be specific please>

ok. How does the patten shoe work specifically?

'it depends' dear..... i am being pleasant per our last "private parlay"

An esoteric enigma.

Hey, I'm the one asking the questions here...

Yes, I noticed the pleasantness

guess I need the secret decoder ring

As regards DSLD/ESPA of the hind limb(s), IME, Dr. Young is wrong and the use of a patten bar shoe will only exacerbate the problem. Jacking up the heels on a horse with SL failure is not only an exercise in futility, it is stupid to0. Think about it for a minute. Elevating the heels creates laxity in which soft tissue(s) and tension/strain/load bearing in which other tissue(s)?

rick, Maybe Dr. Young subscribes to the "get tough or die" school of Vet medicine concerning the use of a Patten Bar shoe with dsld?

My only guess is that there is referred pain through the fascia.

That's the point of my thread. Based on understanding of the biomechanics, some of the uses of the patten (even as prescribed by learned veterinarians) make no sense. Which would make one question WHY the application of one would appear to aid in healing in a situation (such as a bowed superficial, referenced in one of my other posts) , or WHY the application would appear to offer pain relief (in the DSLD) when it's placing more tension on the already weakened damaged sl. I was hoping someone here could explain it.

Been there; following a sf+df tenotomy on my own little pony. May he rest in peace. Vet never even applied a splint. (heard after the fact the same situation happened with Dr. Ric Redden during one of his clinic presentations.)

For those of you who have never seen a patten bar shoe applied, the shoe when used as intended has little to do with redistributing the weight on the foot, or on any tendons or ligaments. Rather it relieves pressure on all parts of that limb, redistributing it to the opposite limb - much like what happens when we place one foot on a stool. Our weight shifts to the foot on the ground. In that light it takes pressure off of all parts of that leg. I'm sure it has been applied as treatment outside those parameters, sometimes with success, sometimes without. As far as shoeing both fronts or hinds with the shoes, I can't imaging that this would help much of anything that a simple wedge would not help. The patten bar shoe is more like adding several inches of wedging.

Or I could be wrong.

Regards

So would a simple raised platform a couple of inches high create that imbalance forcing weight on the opposing limb, or does it need to be in the form of a wedge?

A horse might be tempted to stand on the platform, more than a patten shoe. That's why the patten bar should extend at least a third of the hoof length behind the heels, or they tend to stand on it more, or use it as a pivot point.

Edit to add: Try it yourself - foot flat on a raised platform, then with your heel raised. Which situation causes you to put less weight on the foot?
Regards