uses of the patten shoe

Denise if you had a sneaker on one foot and a high heel on the other . . . then you have a choice of being sneaky or sexy.

Not at my age
But sneaky is still good

Call me stupid then cause I've jacked them up and they were much more comfortable.

Eric, did you use the patten shoe (and I assume you shod in pairs and was it on hinds?) or did you just simply wedge them up "pretty high" (whatever the hell that means)?. Any idea WHY they would get relief from jacking them up and how long did the effect last? months? years?

Denise, Why would you put Pattenbar shoes on pairs? I wouldn't want both pairs unless their tendons on both were either severed or severely bowed? I have used many but only on one hoof at a time? Just my experiences with them.

Eric was talking about jacking up heels on DSLD horses, I just asked if he used pattens. If he did, I would assume he would apply pairs because DSLD presents in either pairs or all 4. The Jan Young protocol I cited was using pattens for DSLD. Which again, is not logical from either stand point of how the patten shoe is presumed to function; ie. whether it takes tension out of ddft and places it in sf and sl or removes entire leg from majority of weightbearing.

http://www.equipodiatry.com/dsld.htm
http://www.equipodiatry.com/pattensh.htm

Gary,
Denise, although she is a very smart lady, doesn't pretend to understand shoes in general, and patten bars in particular. That's why she's asking. I have to think that Dr Young, despite her title, falls into the same category. Denise is looking for answers. I think Dr young is pretending to have them. My only conclusion regarding Dr Young's contention is that the good DR's success with treating DSLD with the shoes was either a mis-diagnosis, or a total anomaly. Her suggestion of using egg bar shoes with wedges to take strain from the sesamoids affected makes more sense. The shoes pictures in Dr O'Grady's article are poorly constructed, and I think in his case also, He's trying to mimic the effect of an egg bar with wedges, in which case, why not just use the egg bar and wedges?. Simply "jacking up the heels" is neither the purpose or effect of properly applied patten bars. Understand that, and your other questions will be answered.

Same goes for you Eric, unless you can offer a more detailed explanation. It just doesn't make anatomical sense. I'm with you Denise. Someone please enlighten me.

( Edited to change "neither" to "either" and "of" to "or". Don't overlook the descriptor "Simply" )

Regards

So if I understand this correctly, you have had/treated horses in your custom with unilateral DSLD/ESPA that have responded favorably to having the heels of the hoof of the affected limb elevated to some degree, right? Do you have any photos of the affected horses? Do you run into very many horses with confirmed unilateral DSLD/ESPA?

Or just include a list of common acronyms, somewhere on this site.

They're using their acronyms there but not here.

Ok, to me a Pattenbar shoe is a "Rest" type of shoe . Movement should be restricted to hand walking and the heels slowly lowered over time.. as to DSLD the fishbar shoe seems to keep them comfortable? Again movement should be controlled but more liberty would be allowed in a lot rather than just stall rest...JMO

Speaking only for myself, Yes.

What he said. No more, no less.

Regards

IME, that is correct. and its also known as Equine Systemic Proteoglycan Accumulation
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...03055168512.392992.92408628511&type=1&theater

with dsld or dlsd or LSD I perfect barefoot. sometime we have un -shoe....