Medial displacement followed by quarter crack

Eric,
I think the lines you drew were closer to finding WPF and being under the COA...even if the rad was a bit oblique, it looks like the thumbtack was ahead of COA by 1/8" or so. If I pull that medial quarter back I think it will move the foot back around and be more symmetrical at the same time...which I believe is what David was saying. We'll see what happens when I get the foot back in my hands.

Not grossly by any means, but I am not confident that they were exactly 90 degrees to the line of travel of the legs.

This horse 20+ years old and definitely has some angular issues.

I am eager to check heel wear patterns in the shoe next time. Last time, all 4 heels were completely smooth, but I had floated that medial heel. This time, I didn't float so if I see a deep groove in the medial, that might give me another reason to believe the crack is a pressure issue. I really just don't know what to think about a causative factor...and am starting to think I never will.

Scruggs....remember my post #31.........well, Dave has mentioned it to lateral cartilage....???

Have you ever patterned a shotgun? Essentially, what happens is that you put a target up, then take aim and pull the trigger. With #8 birdshot, there will be about 400 holes all over the paper. If someone drew a dot on the back side of that paper about the size of a BB, even though the shooter couldn't see the dot, there might be one pellet that hits it completely randomly.

Looks to be one tough horse to me!

David how do you recognise the difference between a shunted up heel and a dragged up heel?

Must be an English thing like shaken, not stirred.

Is this a thought experiment like Schrodinger's Cat where you have to look on the other side of the paper to see if you hit the dot and if you never look the trees used to make the paper target fell without making a sound?

Any update on this horse Scruggs?

Nah...much more simplistic than that. Blind Hog theory. Lets say someone here has verbal dysentery, and they hypothesize a plethora of scenarios on every foot that they see posted on here, each of which they state with absolute resolve. One of their multiple hypothesis is bound to be in the ball park...thus stated, in their own mind, gives them the auto affirmation they need to publicly state "I told you so."

Yes, the crack has grown out of the coronary band. Instead of floating the heel, i just fit it and nailed it up as normal. I am going to that barn tomorrow. If they haven't turned it out by the time I get there, I will clean it off and take a picture for you.

This poses a question: Did the crack perpetuate because I made it unweightbearing by floating it when I first saw a sign that there was going to be one, then resolve itself when I placed weight back on it? Or, was the crack a result of factors independent of a 'normal' trim/weight bearing and just resolved itself when those other factors resolved themselves? Throwing an example out here...did the right foot suffer another laminitic event and thus cause the left foot to bear more of the weight bearing burden...thus causing the crack...which resolved itself after the laminitic event in the opposite was over?

John, this is, perhaps a case of "que sera, sera".

Not sure what that means, but sometimes floatin the heels and quarters works, sometimes they don't and direct pressure gets it done..ain't real pretty but if it grows and keeps growin ya have a better chance..

I have read this thread multiple times and have appreciated some of the responses.
Regarding your question, I cannot say that the crack was caused by floating but I believe it is a possibility. Why?. I believe that if you divided the hoof into question into 4 quadrants then observed the limb/hoof orientation in a weight bearing stance the medial heel quadrant would be "lacking" and both the lateral heel and toe quadrants would be "excessive" to some degree. Meaning that the body mass transferred to the hoof is "over loading" the medial heel quadrant and being exacerbated by the lateral quadrants being farther outside the limb for "proper" support of the bone column . If the hoof capsule was functioning lower(making the medial heel quadrant smaller) on the medial heel, after the float, this could cause the bone column/mass to place even more pressure in that region. The crack would not have been caused by force from ground up it would have been caused by an overload from top down. Raising the medial heel can help draw the lateral quadrants in(closer to mass) orienting load more laterally therefore reducing force on the medial heel.

Thanks for the detailed posts.

John,
"Ques sera, sera" means "what will be, will be".

I would say never lend them a hammer.

Unfortunately, I believe that ship has sailed.