how good/bad is the rider? maybe bad is not the right thing to say; for an inexperienced rider, rocker toes on the fronts and square toes, heel calks with trailer for hinds. For the experienced rider, remind them to put more leg on the horse and ride more forward and if that doesn't work, heavier shoes in front and hind shoes fit longer. Often times, the rider has more impact on how the horse goes than the shoer. But you know that John...
What I done brian was left the heels in front a bit higher than normal made a pair of fronts out of 3/4x5/16 And rolled the toe behind I lowered the heels more than normal made a pair out of 3/4x3/8 and shod with lenth
tough to say how to with out seeing the act. i have sped up the fronts , slowed the hinds, widened the hinds, slowed down the hinds, added weight to the hinds and or the fronts to get them picking themselves up higher to avoid one or the other, squared the hinds, squared the fronts, rolled either or both, set out ground poles to be ridden over so that lazy horses can show that they really are just that and some more along with,as Brian alluded to told the rider to ride the horse. at speed, square toe and trailers ray
my best trick to fix a forging horse, is to put the groom up, offer some quiet riding tips, then stand next to the owner and listen. When there is no sound of forging, as the horse trots by, I voice my observation that we haven't changed the shoes yet , haven't changed the footing or the tack. What do you think made the horse quit forging? Said owner either bucks up and admits it's their fault or tells me to shut up and get back to shoeing area, where I belong...
Once did that with the owner up. Dressage rider, she knew how to ride. She went around about 10 minutes with me as an audience and he never touched. I said "that's enough", she dropped him and whack, whack, whack.. I said "tell you anything, Connie?" I said I would set the horse up a bit differently, but she had her part to do also. I have also ridden a few myself.
after all, isn't getting a horse underneath itself and driving from behind the goal; then why pay me to string the horse out and put his hind end in a different postal code than his front? 2 weeks ago, I took on a new dressage client (with dread, I might add). after looking at an easy fix on her horse (take off VooDoo, go back to basic farriery) and watching her ride over/past the horse's handicap (previous shoeing); I was impressed. The post shoeing ride was amazing, I not sue which one was smiling harder, the horse that had his toes back or the gal that didn't have to work so hard. I felt a little awkward with the hug and her tears afterward but I felt better about scheduling the her next appointment. my faith is being restored that there are real riders out there, just hard to find.
I've seen and tried a lot of things mentioned here, but I think the conditioning of the horse is a big part too.I can't think of a horse in good physical shape with a good rider that forges.
I have known very well conditioned endurance horses to forge in late in a race, when they and their rider were both tired, but that's pretty much in agreement with what you said.
I like to use half round shoes on the front and maybe a square toe behind. Like Brian said there aren't many instances where I would want to slow down the hind feet.
will be interesting to see if the forging stops with work and this shoeing set up or if it increases with hoof length.
If happens again John, try some square toed hinds, well safed toes and set them under the toe and don't take the toe back to the shoe.