horse forging

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    smitty88 Well-Known Member

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    Shod a new pony yesterday that was forging
    lm curius to know how you set the pony up

    with a set.
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    brian robertson Active Member

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    how good/bad is the rider? maybe bad is not the right thing to say; for an inexperienced rider, rocker toes on the fronts and square toes, heel calks with trailer for hinds. For the experienced rider, remind them to put more leg on the horse and ride more forward and if that doesn't work, heavier shoes in front and hind shoes fit longer. Often times, the rider has more impact on how the horse goes than the shoer. But you know that John...
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    smitty88 Well-Known Member

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    What I done brian was left the heels in front
    a bit higher than normal
    made a pair of fronts out of 3/4x5/16
    And rolled the toe

    behind I lowered the heels more than normal
    made a pair out of 3/4x3/8 and shod with lenth
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    ray steele Administrator

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    did what you did correct the situation?
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    smitty88 Well-Known Member

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    Will know on friday as next visit to yard
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    ray steele Administrator

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    tough to say how to with out seeing the act.

    i have

    sped up the fronts , slowed the hinds, widened the hinds, slowed down the hinds, added weight to the hinds and or the fronts to get them picking themselves up higher to avoid one or the other, squared the hinds, squared the fronts, rolled either or both, set out ground poles to be ridden over so that lazy horses can show that they really are just that and some more along with,as Brian alluded to told the rider to ride the horse.

    at speed, square toe and trailers

    ray
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    brian robertson Active Member

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    my best trick to fix a forging horse, is to put the groom up, offer some quiet riding tips, then stand next to the owner and listen. When there is no sound of forging, as the horse trots by, I voice my observation that we haven't changed the shoes yet , haven't changed the footing or the tack. What do you think made the horse quit forging? Said owner either bucks up and admits it's their fault or tells me to shut up and get back to shoeing area, where I belong...
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    Jack Evers Active Member

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    Once did that with the owner up. Dressage rider, she knew how to ride. She went around about 10 minutes with me as an audience and he never touched. I said "that's enough", she dropped him and whack, whack, whack.. I said "tell you anything, Connie?" I said I would set the horse up a bit differently, but she had her part to do also. I have also ridden a few myself.
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    brian robertson Active Member

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    after all, isn't getting a horse underneath itself and driving from behind the goal; then why pay me to string the horse out and put his hind end in a different postal code than his front?

    2 weeks ago, I took on a new dressage client (with dread, I might add). after looking at an easy fix on her horse (take off VooDoo, go back to basic farriery) and watching her ride over/past the horse's handicap (previous shoeing); I was impressed.

    The post shoeing ride was amazing, I not sue which one was smiling harder, the horse that had his toes back or the gal that didn't have to work so hard.
    I felt a little awkward with the hug and her tears afterward but I felt better about scheduling the her next appointment. my faith is being restored that there are real riders out there, just hard to find.
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    Mike Lawrence Member

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    I've seen and tried a lot of things mentioned here, but I think the conditioning of the horse is a big part too.I can't think of a horse in good physical shape with a good rider that forges.
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    Jack Evers Active Member

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    I have known very well conditioned endurance horses to forge in late in a race, when they and their rider were both tired, but that's pretty much in agreement with what you said.
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    Mike Lawrence Member

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    I like to use half round shoes on the front and maybe a square toe behind. Like Brian said there aren't many instances where I would want to slow down the hind feet.
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    smitty88 Well-Known Member

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    Update , ever so slightly still forging
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    ray steele Administrator

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    will be interesting to see if the forging stops with work and this shoeing set up or if it increases with hoof length.
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    ray steele Administrator

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    how did this pony progress over the last 5 weeks? thanks in advance.

    ]ray
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    smitty88 Well-Known Member

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    Owner has been away for 2 weeks
    will be there on tuesday and will get an update
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    smitty88 Well-Known Member

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    Update, it seems to have done the trick
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    ray steele Administrator

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    happy trails............
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    brian robertson Active Member

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    Alex Hall Active Member

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    If happens again John, try some square toed hinds, well safed toes and set them under the toe and don't take the toe back to the shoe.

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