Laminitis Mechanical Founder

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    Eric Russell Active Member

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    Third time shoeing this horse. Seems to be coming around nicely.



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    Rick Burten Professional farrier

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    How did you determine that a mechanical founder existed?
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    Eric Russell Active Member

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    The lamellar wedge and the sole much lower than the wall is why I called it mechanical founder.
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    Eric Russell Active Member

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    I have to look, I can't remember if I took pics the first time I shod him or not. I know I was wondering how I was going to get the horse to walk off the cross ties once I saw what was under the shoes. I might have been more concerned about him walking that day than taking pics. I have pics from the last time if I can find them.
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    Tom Bloomer Well-Known Member

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    Easy, plug your EOBD code reader into the data port and turn on the ignition. :)
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    Rick Burten Professional farrier

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    It could just as easily be metabolic in nature. And, since the preponderance of founders we deal with are metabolic in origin..............
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    Eric Russell Active Member

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    I would say there was a foreign object made of steel creating extremely unnecessary amounts of leverage on parts of the foot that didn't need it. ;)
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    Tom Bloomer Well-Known Member

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    Since most of the time the distortion due to high ground moisture results in some degree of laminar stretching in the dorsal wall and seems to be accompanied by some degree solar flattening as well, I've begun to look at this condition as mechanical founder. At least in my practice this is the preponderance of "founder" I deal with.

    But I think when talking to horse owners it is wise to only use the word "founder" when discussing the metabolic type, else you'll wind up arguing with their veterinarians until you have radiographs that clearly show the situation.

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    Eric Russell Active Member

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    This was the third shoeing. These pics don't come close to what the feet initially looked like. I guess I didn't take pics of the first time.

    I was getting calls for a few months to come take a look at this horses feet. I didn't mention founder to the owner but in a situation like this I'd have no problem mentioning it. Sinking comes to my mine also. :(

    Eric Russell
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    aliciathompson Member

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    Nice work. I am sure th e horse would pay for that work himself if he could.
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    Eric Russell Active Member

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    Here's this guy again.

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    John Muldoon Member

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    Eric I have real good luck when I fit my founder horses just behind the widest part of the frog not sure why they respond to the fit but when I try to fit shorter all Hell breaks loose.
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    Eric Russell Active Member

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    John, without knowing the goal of added heel length I can't say much about it.

    I do believe heel length is very over rated though.

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    John Muldoon Member

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    In as far as support on a founder hoof I find it to make a lot of difference.
    Question off subject why on one computer (xp operating system) my posts have spell check and my windows 7 system does not?
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    Eric Russell Active Member

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    Here's what they look like now...

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    david a hall Moderator

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    did he founder in both feet Eric? There is a lot going on there.
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    Eric Russell Active Member

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    The previous Farrier achieved a great amount of capsular rotation in both fronts!

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