Emerson vs. Scott 100 lb anvil

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Kim Turner, May 29, 2012.

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    Travis Morgan Copenhagen. You can see it in my smile!

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    Tom, it's because I was useing cheapo, off brand vise grips and an igneous rock. I know George insists on only certain kinds of metamorphic rock and custom made vise grips made by a bhuddist master in the himalayas from special magical alloys and imported my llama train (not lama) , but I'm just a schmuck, unworthy, an embarassment to the trade, blah, blah.....
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    Tom Bloomer Well-Known Member

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    Is igneous rock hollow?
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    Travis Morgan Copenhagen. You can see it in my smile!

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    Nope. Just named after George. And after reading the other thread, I'm sure as hell not gonna say it's porous!
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    smitty88 Well-Known Member

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    I was thinking the same:p
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    Travis Morgan Copenhagen. You can see it in my smile!

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    Watching "Rawhide". Those fellas needed GPS; seems like they never delivered those cattle!
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    Kim Turner Master of my own domain

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    The bar shoe was just turned and welded. Rather than welding a circle I wanted to try a bar shoe. I learned why I've been messing up my pritchels. I didn't know I had to punch, drift, then pritchel on 3/8. In school we used 5/16 and skipped drifting. I've got to make a new forepunch. The one I have is very crudely made, and I want to shape one for E head and CH.

    I'll take a pic of the anvil later. Headed to my daughter's ballet recital today. :)
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    Travis Morgan Copenhagen. You can see it in my smile!

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    I'm still having a hell of a time with the "horseshoe sandwich" welds in a gas forge. I'm using Iron Mountain flux, but my forge won't do yellow heat.
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    smitty88 Well-Known Member

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    you dont need it to hot to weld
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    Travis Morgan Copenhagen. You can see it in my smile!

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    What kinda scarfing do I need to do for that kinda weld? Or do I need to scarf? Would I just hammer halfway across, for the length of stock?
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    jack mac Guest

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    It might pay to heat the steel first Travis before bulging it to death. If I was a jury you would be hung for first degree murder & Mz Turner You really want to forget about those rubbishy anvils you have been trying to decide on & stick to a traditional shaped anvil. Learning how to use the horn properly for shaping your shoes . A properly formed horn allows you to place your metal straight on or angled to the horn to achieve any radios needed.
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    Tom Bloomer Well-Known Member

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    What's all this about murder and radios? Somebody listening to the dead crows?
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    jack mac Guest

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    Personal I don't really care if a horse shoe is fire welded, arc welded or gas welded so long as its properly welded. I've seen a lot of fire welds admired that weren't & where nothing more than cold lagged. With a lot of Skill going in to hiding they where cold lagged. If you gamma rayed those cold lagged welds you would soon change your mind & opinion on what constitutes a properly welded piece of metal.
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    Western Hill Forge Active Member

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    Is it possible that you're hitting the bar too hard when trying to weld it? It's a common mistake. Experiment some with your striking force. I'm not sure where scarfing would play a part in making the horseshoe sandwich - Pelting, per Mr. Bunting's contribution on HS.

    Regards
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    smitty88 Well-Known Member

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    concave -bar shoe 11.JPG



    WOULD YOU CONSIDER THIS WELDED JACK
    FOOT SURFICE OF A CONCAVE SHOE
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    jack mac Guest

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    Any based on the Peter Wright Anvil shape & of good solid steel with a good ring to it .
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    jack mac Guest

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    For the purpose of a bar shoe & the stress it is to take & the risks if it failed . yes it would be classed as surfactant. but with out knowing the temperature & what impurity's may have been trapped or faults with in the weld & metal whilst being welded. Just going by appearance alone is no guarantee its welded properly. Nice looking bit of work John.
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    smitty88 Well-Known Member

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    The way i look at it Jack is if you can get 3 resets out of them
    and there is not a dicky bird out of them there welded for me
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    jack mac Guest

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    I'm not talking about your fire welding being cold lagged. Your work is first class .
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    jack mac Guest

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    The right shaped anvil makes the job easier. makes working shoes easer & with making any horse shoe the more you can do before heat loss in the metal the less time wasted reheating. The less fuel wasted & the less wire brushing scale. Do you not like continental Anvils ? & if so why ?
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    Some times its better then listening to Dead Shits.;)

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