Everyday Shoeing

Discussion in 'Everyday Horseshoeing' started by gary evans, Mar 8, 2012.

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    gary evans old and slow

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    I haven't posted anything on here for a while, so just to show willing, here's one I did today.
    Machine made shoe, 7/8 x 7/16 concave size 7 (5 3/4").

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    Tejun Member

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    Quick question, when was NB founded?
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    david a hall Moderator

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    Rick Burten Professional farrier

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    In 1986 and 1987 Gene began his studies of feral horses out of which evolved his principles and guidelines for the NB approach to hoof care. IIRC, a patent for the horseshoe(s) was applied for in the early-mid 1990's.

    Why not just call the HQ's and ask them yourself?
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    Tejun Member

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    Well Rick, I am a pretty young guy, and we young un's have evolved out of the entire 'phone call' thing. I googled it with no luck, so then I came here where I knew one of you learned individuals would know the answer, and if that answer ended up being incorrect, then someone on here would correct them with extreme prejudice. Thank you for answering.
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    gary evans old and slow

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    Isn't the point of a forum that you can ask folk stuff you want to know?
    Just asking...

    BTW, what's or who are the HQ's?
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    Clint Burrell Active Member

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    HQ= "Headquarters" (y)
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    Gary Hill Active Member

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    Really frustrating kind of day..bad ice storm so I decided to make a shop day out of it..I invited a lot of Farriers to come play in the fire today .Only 2 guys came and they just watched...I answered many questions about how I was making the barshoes and some Liteshod TWH shoes..we had good talks about lameness and helpful shoeing ideas...but then they both claimed that they could do a lot with the Surefit shoes they use daily...their prices are quite low compared to mine and they work together and both have separate clients too....felt like I was talking to a wall...
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    Draftshoer Active Member

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    You may have been talking to a wall Gary but at least they came. Sometimes it is hard to do something in front of someone you perceive to be better than you. Ask them to come back again, they may start participating more when they get more comfortable.
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    Gary Hill Active Member

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    Good Idea there!
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    gary evans old and slow

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    and get them to start, that way they don't feel like they have anything to live up to.
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    Tejun Member

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    A new client from San Francisco, has a NB job on the fronts with a full wedge pad, here is a picture of my attempt at replicating the job.
    My shame, on this job, is the damn nail holes, I didn't think I pulled the clinches down so hard, this picture shows me that very clearly. Rasp marks are a too strong. Still working towards the finish some of you guys get on here.

    Old job is on the left. Pardon the picture i was trying something new here with photoshop.

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    Zouhair Benjabbour Zou

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    Nice job Tejun (y)

    Other than the clinches I think that maybe you have fit it too tight. After a couple of weeks you may end up with the hoof over the edges of the shoe.
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    Tejun Member

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    Ouch. I hope not. I will be watching for that for sure. I think it is just the picture because I had plenty of expansion and fullness, because the pad once rasped tapered from the foot out to the shoe, this picture show that better. It also shows my clinching eh...

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    chris bunting Well-Known Member

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    why the wedges ?
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    Tejun Member

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    Dr. Renee Golenz in Brentwood diagnosed horse with Caudill Heel pain in her front feet cuz of a 'negative plane' confirmation. X-rays also showed very minor navicular change in right foot. She had no other symptoms for it just a slight change to the bone, like millimeters.
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    Bill Adams Active Member

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    I love the "caudal heel pain" diagnosis. As opposed to what, distal, or dorsal heel pain? If you move the shoe back and put more steel behind (center of articulation), you may not need pads.

    Gary,
    never give up. Every once in a while you get one that catches on. Look at Tejun here. I heard he was the new guy around, called and got together, inspired him beyond his wildest dreams, now he's doing several hundred percent better. Shannon is on fire (and in the fire) too.
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    Tejun Member

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    I was leaning towards that myself. Baby steps with this owner I think. The horse doesn't have sole issues, so I was going to trade out full wedge pads for the bar wedge pads. It is one of those cases where the lady and the horse are very happy with current job(she just moved here) and so I am going to have to ease her into this idea. I think I may decrease the angle of the wedge pad incrementally also.
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    Tejun Member

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    See if I was diagnosing it, since I don't have letters after my name, all i'm allowed to say is, "I think his heels hurt.":LOL:


    Honestly though the navicular diagnosis is so broad. It could be, the bursa, the navicular bone, ddft, edema within bones. With each individual part there are multiple different things that could be happening also, like with the bursa, could be swollen or completely destroyed.

    MRI of soft tissues is the only way to find out exactly which soft tissues are being affected?
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    Rick Burten Professional farrier

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    A diagnosis of "Navicular" is the refuge of the diagnostically impaired.....
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