New Rasp and reworked mill tooth plane

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    UK Tool Maker New Member

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    Hi guys, has any other material been considered? We make Carbide Tools (besides hammers), If I could see a picture of one of these rasps, I might have some input? If you dont have a photo, a link would do?
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    Mikel Dawson Active Member

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    ray steele Administrator

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    Just got word that the Pferds are going up approx. 7%

    ray
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    Mikel Dawson Active Member

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    Is that up 7% in size, quality or price?
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    ray steele Administrator

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    price is all that was indicated to me
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    ray steele Administrator

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    I m expecting 45 pcs of the new mill tooth plane to arrive from the sharpening factory within the next week. The price each is $54.00 plus shipping from Gill.
    Several are spoken for and will go out as soon as this lot arrives. There are more being manufactured as i speak (or so i m told).
    At this point we are not ready to supply more than 1 or 2 pcs orders .

    We are working on a mill tooth that would be priced like a conventional rasp ie, the $25.00 usd range, but all would need to understand that they would also have the approx. longevity of a rasp . This has to do with the steel composition.

    ray
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    ray steele Administrator

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    New mill tooth has arrived,
    $54.00 each fob gill ma.

    ray
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    ray steele Administrator

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    Feedback is coming in slowly on the new /reworked Mill tooth. So far the majority is that it is very good, and re orders.

    I ve had one reply saying that the finish side is outstanding but the course side is not spectacular.

    spectacular to not so good, bout 20 to one.
    We are calling them The "Preffered" mill tooth hoof plane

    got news today that we may have one that will be priced like a conventional rasp, but are awaiting samples, it will have the life of a rasp but cut like a mill tooth.................if!

    ray
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    david a hall Moderator

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    I had the boss on the phone today to say his Irish cousin ( Ray recently flew to Ireland ) had been charged with sending me the preferred hoof plane that Mr Steele had secreted through customs in a special compartment in his hand luggage.
    Fabulous I said, when did he post it I asked? 2 weeks ago Ray said.... My heart sank a little as I hadn't received it...... He described how not having my adress that they went on Alex's web site, I didn't know he had one.... And sent it to where he lived....
    I asked if it had been sent recorded and Ray said that no it had been wrapped in brown paper and put in a post box as that's how his grand mother had always done it..... He assured me that there was no panic as it was only two weeks ago and things happen slower in Ireland... So with that in mind I was more optimistic....... And low and behold it arrived.....
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    ray steele Administrator

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    I hope you read the instruction booklet! the tang is for a handle.

    as to the Irish system , i ve had it suggested that the cross hairs that i added to the address made English authorities more vigilant in the delivery process............. damn they are good!

    interested in your feedback

    ray
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    david a hall Moderator

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    Thank you Ray...
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    david a hall Moderator

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    So the new rasp arrived.... For those not familiar with it it has long wide teath that plane the foot. It feels very light in the hand and on the foot. I was amazed at the ease with which it removed material.. To the point I nearly over dressed the first foot. A very light presure is required and slithers of hoof fly off, with the light pressure it is easy to keep the foot level as the rasp doesn't grab and catch. It is important to ease the soft horn around the seat of corn as the design of the rasp has less effective action as it hits the soft horn. Alex and I used it on 16 sets the first day and it had lost its edge a tough by the end of the day but it still functioned well.
    The smooth side is excellent and will make rasp marks a thing of the past. We haven't used it for clenching at all. We will also put it on the buffer to see how it sharpens.
    My first thoughts are a great bit of kit and a good leveling aid.
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    smitty88 Well-Known Member

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    Would you consider byeing them on a regular basis david?
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    david a hall Moderator

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    I think so John, the teath arrangement seem better suited to the tanged teath of current rasps.
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    ray steele Administrator

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    David,

    last friday, while at a standardbred farm another farrier tried one that i had, he pushed it across side to side, up an down, switching hands ....and i said, slow down , he replied that he didn t think much of it, then he looked down at the pile of shavings, stood upright and stated that his dad always said to look at the ground and assess the amt on the ground before going to far with the rasp or knife. on the next 7 hooves he said that you could get into trouble with the "preferred", if you presumed that it works like a rasp. In my opinion ,the 6/6 and the 6/9 are even better, they do not have the chip breakers in the teeth. .
    as to the tooth width, Michael Allen might be correct that hard feel provide too much resistance. we are looking into another tooth configuration, similar to the fine side of what you have but with 9 cross teeth/inch instead of the 13 /inch that is now on the"preffered". who knows.

    when you feel that it is completely used up and you take out whatever brand of conventional rasp that you use, please do one hoof and then go back to the worn out "preffered and compare..... let me know what you think...good bad or indifferent.

    sounds like you finally figured out which end the handle went on, heard that didn t happen till Alex showed you!

    ray
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    Still been using the rasp Ray and with some touching up on the mop and soap, it comes really well. I've been on and off using a hellar excel alongside it and the Heller has died a lot faster than the rasp Ray supplied me. Very impressed and hoping to receive some more
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    ray steele Administrator

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    Alex ,thanks for that,

    there are more in the pipeline, that said, based on the strong usd. these would trade over on your side of the pond at around $36 GBP.each. or

    49 euro or

    68 CND


    That s based on $54.00 usd at todays approx. exchange, shipping on top of that.

    Would it still be interesting to you?

    thanks again

    Ray
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    david a hall Moderator

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    I think that's competitive Ray.
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    Western Hill Forge Active Member

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    I started using my first one yesterday Ray. So far I'm really loving it.

    Regards
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    ray steele Administrator

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    Rick,

    thanks for the update,
    Today I spoke to another farrier who bought a couple last Wednesday, he informed me that he was still on the 1st one , that he had buffed it yesterday and that it came back "like new" he said.

    I failed to ask "how many he had done with it but he seemed quite satisfied. As you understand, the proof will be in time ...heres hopeing!

    thank you for taking the time to report, it is appreciated.

    Ray

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