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    Tejun Member

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    Hi Rick,
    I have never tried to explain this in writing so please bare with me.

    In my head (scary place) When I see horses with long toes, pancaked feet, and under run heels I try to get the toe out of the way, because I believe that is the main culprit. Too much toe affecting break over causing constant pressure on the tubules driving them to a point in advanced cases where they are literally parallel with the ground. Not really but you have all seen it.

    Instead of a long rocker toe or a rockered shoe I set the shoe back a bit, more than a bit.

    Instead of rasping all of that toe flush with the shoe, because sometimes that exposes laminae and looks like hell, dubbing it off also looks like hell.

    I try to 'champfer' (bevel) the toe... no idea how to spell it just learned how to pronounce it.

    I have recently very recently due to some more sage advice incorporated a rolled toe with this.

    I do want to do the things you mentioned,(rockered toe and rockered shoe) which as far as I can tell serve a very similar if not identical function( making for a seamless break over).

    But to answer you question plainly, the bevel was the bi product of the set back shoe.
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    Tejun Member

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    Best He-Man impersonation, "I have the POWER!" I have been waiting for this damn block brush for ages just arrived!
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    david kelly Dave Kelly

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    What do ya mean Rick?
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    Rick Burten Professional farrier

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    With only one exception that I am aware of, companies market their wedge pads as a #1 wedge, a #2 wedge, a #3 wedge, etc. The number is not necessarily equivalent to the amount of degrees of the pad, with that measurement [usually] being greater than the number assigned to the pad. Having taken some time to actually do the measurements, I find that, for instance, a #2 wedge pad is actually 4* +/-. The only way I know of to actually[precisely?] figure out how many degrees any wedge pad will add to a given hoof is to stand the horse on the pad and then use a half circle protractor(http://www.tjleone.com/a06_180protractor.htm) or, as I did, use a digital protractor (http://gizmodo.com/5944289/digital-protractor-promises-more-accuracy-than-a-plastic-half-circle) to see what the effect of the 'heel lift' is and compare that to the hoof without the lift.
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    just like the KB-open heel is really a 3*+......not a true 2*

    I always thought that of the different wedge pads............they must say 1-2-3-4 degree......not a #1-2-3-4 type wedge pad, confusingo_O
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    Tejun Member

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    I call this Mr. Hefty. I used 1" x 3 /8" steel bar stock. I measured out the nail holes and marked them somehow they are still a slightly slightly bit askew. :).

    To date this is my favorite one. I can't help think that Smitty is snickering to himself thinking about me trying to be forge this larger stock. It was a bitch. Haha

    I bumped up the toe about half an inch. I angled my nail holes measured them they all work. My heels are a little better no fish mouth. The roughness on the one heel, it's because I gave up using a hacksaw and chopped it in half with The Anvil Devil. Fixing that was a chore.





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    ray tyron Member

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    Tejun .any inperfections in your hammer face or anvil will transfer to your steel.i prefer a flater face for finnish work a domed face or pean are for moveing steel away from where you strike and will leave depreshons. A tool called a flatter makes life easer.wish this thing would post pics :(
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    smitty88 Well-Known Member

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    He just has to learn to use a hammer
    how to forge.

    why do you allways look for the easy way out
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    ray tyron Member

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    Agreed.but part of that is knowing the affect each hammer and each strike has on the work and good tools make that easer. Ive no dought you could get a glass finnish with a crose hatched framing hammer John but while his work is progressing verry fast it looks like he is trying to finnish them with a ball pean.
    Tejun.short over laping blows make for a smother finnish
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    chris bunting Well-Known Member

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    practice makes perfect and takes 1000s of hours , tons of steel and a lot of sweat , blood and tears
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    ray tyron Member

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    why do you allways look for the easy way out[/quote]?? Guess im just lazy John:(
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    Tejun Member

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    Oh ok, the littlest BIG things slip the mind.

    I thought the pot marks were from not brushing it enough. Haha

    Next shoe this will be a primary focus.


    Yo Smitty can I try fullering yet?
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    smitty88 Well-Known Member

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    ?? Guess im just lazy John:([/quote]


    Okkkkk
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    smitty88 Well-Known Member

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    No get them heels right
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    Tejun Member

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    Smitty As promised here is a hind shoeing here are the before pics.
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    And the afters
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    ray tyron Member

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    Tejun Member

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    Oh no. Nit picking is good! I used it but I drove it to shallow so I just pulled that nail and skipped it rather than perforating the hell out of that spot.
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    smitty88 Well-Known Member

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    Well done Tejun
    for me i would like you to nail him up better
    its not good long term driving nails is this manner
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    Tejun Member

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    Today's work. Huge bar stock shoe and one lite shoe. It's amazing how quick the little ones go since the muscles are adapted to huge bar stock. (Thank you Smitty)
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    I know there is work to be done. Was real busy this week and last week, first time I made shoes since last post in here.

    Today's combined efforts.

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    david a hall Moderator

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    Tejun these were pics an apprentice did to help him with nail hole position and shape, just a guide but you might find it helpful.
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